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CactiOfLight

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The other day I had a severe drug interaction leading to hallucinations and psychosis, the staff at the hospital decided it was necessary to give me 180mg of intramuscular haldol that I am aware of as well as 5 additional IM injection sites where I was likely given more haldol and DPH. Does anyone have any suggestions to make this more tolerable, I've still got a way to go before peak symptoms. Harmine is helping some, cannabis has no high or benefits associated with it does anyone have anything that would work to make this more tolerable. I attempted to microdose with 75mg very pure mescaline acetate (washed with cold dry MEK 8 times) as I've read studies about it and LSD providing some relief in low doses and the result was simply coming up for about 10 minutes followed by a sudden crash and feeling just as crappy as before taking the mescaline. I believe it goes without saying, haldol is great stuff....in the proper dose when needed but I was completely sedated by 20mg and at 180mg was unconscious for 13 hours.
 
I'm not looking for 100% relief, I am currently taking melatonin, high tryptophan diet, and smoking tobacco for the harmine as Syrian rue and caapi aren't available right now. I just want to not want to die.
 
:? Dude stop taking anything you are only making it worse.

Just throwing random drugs into you to get "relief" from another drug DOES NOT WORK.

The haloperidiol actively counteracts all drugs you take.

Its no joke. Dont continue to take drugs after having a bad reaction. Especially DONT USE DRUGS THAT CAN INDUCE PSYCHOSIS AFTER HAVING ONE.

Especially quit the harmalas as haloperidiol itself shows some MAOI action. And as you know MAOI is the system that attacks most drugs in your body. By using harmalas you are very likely increasing the strenght of the haloperidiol.
Just stop everything and your body will do its work.
 
Im pretty sure you got the initial reaction from using Bupropion with the harmalas as this combination is known to have TERRIBLE side effects.

"Bupropion inhibits the reuptake of dopamine and norepinephrine. Concomitant use of MAOIs and bupropion is contraindicated because there is an increased risk of hypertensive reactions if bupropion is used concomitantly with MAOIs. Studies in animals demonstrate that the acute toxicity of bupropion is enhanced by the MAO inhibitor phenelzine. At least 14 days should elapse between discontinuation of an MAOI intended to treat depression and initiation of treatment with WELLBUTRIN. Conversely, at least 14 days should be allowed after stopping WELLBUTRIN before starting an MAOI antidepressant"
 
hey
like ulim already said, if you had a psychosis after taking a drug, DO NOT TAKE MORE DRUGS
also, relief ? you should be experiencing pain right now, a consequential thing
anyway, your post reminded me of how i threw in NaOH . freebased harmalas, didnt redissolve in acidic solution, added salt, and now its ruined :)
its also gonna be a "pain" to get anything out of that batch, you feel me ?
 
Hey man. So it sounds like you're in a lot of pain, yes?

I have to tell you, I think for you the way out is through. You'll only prolong the agony by putting more strange stuff in your body (and I say this as someone who very much enjoys putting various chemicals in my own body - but responsibly, at doses my mind and body can handle, for good reasons, and in safe conditions). I recommend drinking plenty of water and teas, eating fresh fruit, going for walks - preferably in a park, or even better, a forest - and making sure you get tons of really good sleep (this is probably the most important thing for healing your brain and body, but the other things I mentioned will help with it). If you feel strong enough, go swimming or lift weights as well. Play with some animals if you know any. I recommend Michael Sealey's Youtube channel for sleep hypnosis, if you're not finding falling asleep easy. Seriously, work hard at this for a few days and you might be surprised how strong you feel for having powered through it.

So... what was the reason for the initial drug interaction? why did you mix those two things? I might be missing something here, but my google research suggests that bupropion and nicotine are contraindicated.
 
PlantTraveller said:
Hey man. So it sounds like you're in a lot of pain, yes?

So... what was the reason for the initial drug interaction? why did you mix those two things? I might be missing something here, but my google research suggests that bupropion and nicotine are contraindicated.
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The doctor prescribed it as a dual purpose antidepressant/smoking cessation aid.
 
the doctor prescribed the nicotine and the bupropion? fair enough.

still... try and detox a bit... it'll do ya good, we could all do with a bit of that. hope you feel better soon.
 
CactiOfLight said:
PlantTraveller said:
Hey man. So it sounds like you're in a lot of pain, yes?

So... what was the reason for the initial drug interaction? why did you mix those two things? I might be missing something here, but my google research suggests that bupropion and nicotine are contraindicated.
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The doctor prescribed it as a dual purpose antidepressant/smoking cessation aid.
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Only do the drugs the doctor gave you in the amounts he perscribed. Dont to anything on the side.
No weed. No harmalas. No smoking tobacco if he says so etc.
 
So you smoked on the wellbutrin, that happens pretty often actually, but generally people don't end up getting knockout doses of Haloperidol when it happens, so I'm curious what else was going (or what doses were involved) that precipitated this experience?

Haloperidol has a pretty long half-life. You said it's been some days already, so you should be over the peak of it. Of course adding all these other compounds is not helping and likely contributes to compounding the negative effects. Please immediately discontinue use of harmalas, this is very dangerous and could land you right back in the hospital. There is no point in taking the psychedelics, since the Haloperidol blocks them anyway. The cannabis shouldn't be too much of a problem, but you mentioned it's not working anyway, so probably no point in using it right now.

Give it some time, let the substances leave your system. Maybe try picking up the cannabis again in a few days if you absolutely must use a psychoactive, but you'd be better off skipping it and focusing on the healthy living suggestions others have given you. Which incidentally are much healthier and more effective ways to address depression than popping pills.
 
Everything given to me aside from the nicotine was administered against my will in the hospital or prescibed including the Wellbutrin and cannabis. I have only ever received Haldol in a hospital and an excessive dose. My wife is a neuroscientist who has been advising me through this situation as well as a prominent behavioral scientist and psychologist who is a former clinical psychologist in Arizona. Symptomatically I am experiencing severe depression, memory loss, agitation, urinary retention, dyskinesia, muscle stiffness, anticholinergic effects for two days after receiving 700mg IM diphenhydramine and 25mg chlorpromazine, I was given lorazepam intramuscularly even though it is on record that lorazepam causes severe agitation with a completely paradoxical reaction 8mg and a 0.5mg tablet I was told was lomotrigine which I am prescribed, the tablets are identical unless closely inspected which was not an option, I managed to avoid taking the Effexor. I will work on getting the papers from MedLine.
 
dreamer042 said:
So you smoked on the wellbutrin, that happens pretty often actually, but generally people don't end up getting knockout doses of Haloperidol when it happens, so I'm curious what else was going (or what doses were involved) that precipitated this experience?

Haloperidol has a pretty long half-life. You said it's been some days already, so you should be over the peak of it. Of course adding all these other compounds is not helping and likely contributes to compounding the negative effects. Please immediately discontinue use of harmalas, this is very dangerous and could land you right back in the hospital. There is no point in taking the psychedelics, since the Haloperidol blocks them anyway. The cannabis shouldn't be too much of a problem, but you mentioned it's not working anyway, so probably no point in using it right now.

Give it some time, let the substances leave your system. Maybe try picking up the cannabis again in a few days if you absolutely must use a psychoactive, but you'd be better off skipping it and focusing on the healthy living suggestions others have given you. Which incidentally are much healthier and more effective ways to address depression than popping pills.
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My depression is rooted in early childhood trauma, that hasn't responded to therapy for over 18 years when I was told I could use the wellbutrin to get off the nicotine by my psychiatrist, the next day with my first dose of 150mg extended release and within 45 minutes I was hallucinating, experiencing some level of delirium, agitated clawing at my face and arms, paranoid, irrational fear, forced overstimulation, dysphoria, vitals were normal only drugs in my system were trace metabolites of alprazolam prescribed prn, nicotine and Wellbutrin.
 
Ulim said:
Im pretty sure you got the initial reaction from using Bupropion with the harmalas as this combination is known to have TERRIBLE side effects.

"Bupropion inhibits the reuptake of dopamine and norepinephrine. Concomitant use of MAOIs and bupropion is contraindicated because there is an increased risk of hypertensive reactions if bupropion is used concomitantly with MAOIs. Studies in animals demonstrate that the acute toxicity of bupropion is enhanced by the MAO inhibitor phenelzine. At least 14 days should elapse between discontinuation of an MAOI intended to treat depression and initiation of treatment with WELLBUTRIN. Conversely, at least 14 days should be allowed after stopping WELLBUTRIN before starting an MAOI antidepressant"
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Yes in low doses Haloperidol does exhibit MAOI activity, however at high doses it is an MAO agonist, I have provided multiple sources in the comments. Also this is in reference to irreversible synthetic MAOIs with a specific mention of phenelzine, my sources indicate that MAOIs after HIGH doses which I received 180mg when a standard dose IM is 5-10mg a heavy dose being 20, I was given nine injections of 20mg each that I am aware of and I found twenty IM and one IV injection site, there was a denial of information where I was not informed as to what they were giving me after I was sedated beyond the point of movement.
 
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