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Harmala and nausea
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The rabbit formulated a potion by mixing into honey, heated in a pot to make it less viscous, 6 drops of peppermint oil, 8 drops of lemon oil, 5 drops of orange oil, roughly 1 gram of powdered ginger, a few shakes of powdered cumin, and a few shakes of cinnamon. This was heated for no more than 10min, and about 60% of it consumed roughly the same time as consuming 100mg harmala alkaloids.
Still too early to tell whether it helped. Will follow up with the rabbit's experience later.
Still too early to tell whether it helped. Will follow up with the rabbit's experience later.
Well normally the rabbit gets nauseous around the 1:15 hour point, and that continues to worsen over a length of time.
The rabbit, at an hour, took another gulp of the potion and sipped on it occasionally throughout the last 2 hours. I am pleased to say, it did not get sick. In fact, it was feeling well enough to even go for a fairly long hop around the neighborhood!
There is still this sense of motion sickness and improper vision dimensioning that seems to come with harmala. It is definitely feeling the effects of the dose, and although enjoying the experience and not having any ill effects, all the signs that nausea "should" be there, are with the rabbit. But the rabbit is not nauseous at all!
Btw, Mr. Bunny did this experiment without controlling diet at all. It ate a pork chop at lunch with a root beer, and a pop-tart nearing dusk.
I am seriously impressed at these results!
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The potion itself is tolerable. It is rather sweet and herbal/spicy tasting, mostly just strong though. The kind of thing you wouldn't drink for pleasure, but would be happy to drink to cure an ailment. The peppermint oil is very potent and stands out. I'd recommend using less of it than the other ingredients anyways, since it contains pulegone, which can be hepatotoxic in high doses.
I don't know how long a dose of this stuff will last. Hopes for at least half the duration of the harmalas (about 2 hours.)
The rabbit did not try this with DMT. Just harmala, and at a relatively light dosage. There is more to find out, but if subsequent trials go as well, then we may have a good recipe for an "Iron Stomach tea" here!
The rabbit, at an hour, took another gulp of the potion and sipped on it occasionally throughout the last 2 hours. I am pleased to say, it did not get sick. In fact, it was feeling well enough to even go for a fairly long hop around the neighborhood!
There is still this sense of motion sickness and improper vision dimensioning that seems to come with harmala. It is definitely feeling the effects of the dose, and although enjoying the experience and not having any ill effects, all the signs that nausea "should" be there, are with the rabbit. But the rabbit is not nauseous at all!
Btw, Mr. Bunny did this experiment without controlling diet at all. It ate a pork chop at lunch with a root beer, and a pop-tart nearing dusk.
I am seriously impressed at these results!
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The potion itself is tolerable. It is rather sweet and herbal/spicy tasting, mostly just strong though. The kind of thing you wouldn't drink for pleasure, but would be happy to drink to cure an ailment. The peppermint oil is very potent and stands out. I'd recommend using less of it than the other ingredients anyways, since it contains pulegone, which can be hepatotoxic in high doses.
I don't know how long a dose of this stuff will last. Hopes for at least half the duration of the harmalas (about 2 hours.)
The rabbit did not try this with DMT. Just harmala, and at a relatively light dosage. There is more to find out, but if subsequent trials go as well, then we may have a good recipe for an "Iron Stomach tea" here!
Bumping this old thread because a revolutionary discovery has been made!
Every time my rabbit was making his Acacia tea, he noticed there always seemed to be a small amount of 'mud' at the bottom that no amount of filtration would remove. Someone in another thread pointed out that this can be removed by pouring the mixture through a funnel stuffed with a cotton ball, and that it also removed nausea completely.
Lo and behold - my rabbit tried this, and it worked! Worked amazingly! This, in combination with a diet of "safe" chicken, resulted in -zero- nausea for him even at increased doses of both Harmala and Acacia!
Hopefully these results are replicated next time as well, but I'm sure they will be. He said it was nothing short of amazing to be able to trip again without having to worry about an ill stomach!
Every time my rabbit was making his Acacia tea, he noticed there always seemed to be a small amount of 'mud' at the bottom that no amount of filtration would remove. Someone in another thread pointed out that this can be removed by pouring the mixture through a funnel stuffed with a cotton ball, and that it also removed nausea completely.
Lo and behold - my rabbit tried this, and it worked! Worked amazingly! This, in combination with a diet of "safe" chicken, resulted in -zero- nausea for him even at increased doses of both Harmala and Acacia!
Hopefully these results are replicated next time as well, but I'm sure they will be. He said it was nothing short of amazing to be able to trip again without having to worry about an ill stomach!
Nausea is inevitable at a high enough dosage of even purified harmalas+DMT (or harmalas alone)
Maybe when one starts talking about really high doses. But my rabbit's starting to realize that it can be eliminated through thorough purification, and control of diet.
The dose was quite big for my rabbit this time around, and previously it would certainly have thrown up most of the tea. I don't think it could've thrown up if it wanted to.
The dose was quite big for my rabbit this time around, and previously it would certainly have thrown up most of the tea. I don't think it could've thrown up if it wanted to.
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Rabbit said:
Have you tried eating some fresh fruit slices after the onset?
For me the taste of fruit during a aya session is magnified & seriously amazing, but also the juice & flesh seem to feel very good on the stomache after all that astringent tannic brew passing through the digestive tract & actually seem to reduce nausea.
Lettuce & tomatoe also seem to work the same way.
Yes, the rabbit's eaten raspberries after consuming aya. Didn't make much of a difference. Will have him keep it in mind and try it with other fruits though if this last breakthrough isn't consistent.
(He thinks it will be though.)
He does make his brew using lemonade instead of vinegar (Highly recommend this! Can't imagine why anyone would do it any other way!) so there's already some fruit juice mixed in. He's lately been a fan of the raspberry lemonade
(He thinks it will be though.)
He does make his brew using lemonade instead of vinegar (Highly recommend this! Can't imagine why anyone would do it any other way!) so there's already some fruit juice mixed in. He's lately been a fan of the raspberry lemonade
I think my rabbit found the solution! It's not the Harmala at all, it was due to the Acacia extraction process.
See, my rabbit used to always filter the bark through coffee filters...but this would take a really long time and never seemed to catch everything. This brew almost always made the rabbit nauseous.
He then tried a tip he read here - pour the mixture through a kitchen funnel with cotton balls stuffed at the bottom, instead of using coffee filters.
Apparently the cotton balls do a -much- better job of catching the solids. Plus this method is actually faster. But more importantly, doing it this way completely 100% eliminated nausea the last two times for my rabbit!
See, my rabbit used to always filter the bark through coffee filters...but this would take a really long time and never seemed to catch everything. This brew almost always made the rabbit nauseous.
He then tried a tip he read here - pour the mixture through a kitchen funnel with cotton balls stuffed at the bottom, instead of using coffee filters.
Apparently the cotton balls do a -much- better job of catching the solids. Plus this method is actually faster. But more importantly, doing it this way completely 100% eliminated nausea the last two times for my rabbit!
