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harmalas and molly
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Observant
Nothing Stops The Void
Harmalas on mdma is a no go...atleast for me since I went into a serious seizure with rush to the ER last time i smoked a little bit of changa during an otherwisely smooth candyflip .
several people at the place thought i had died in front of their eyes and also went into rather dark experiences...
several people at the place thought i had died in front of their eyes and also went into rather dark experiences...
MDMA + MAOI's = Serotonin Poisoning or death
Ellis D'Empty
Snirfneblin
Pretty big red flags there! haha xD
Observant
Nothing Stops The Void
I was "diagnosed" with "Substance related cramping" Not serotonin syndrome , nor "schizophrenia" ,
It can happen to sensitive people with Acid , Alcohol , mdma , and also other things , like mind machines or the sun.
After the drive to the hospital and intravenous Nacl solution i can say I didnt have a fever . I dont know if i was hot during the Seizure , and i also dont know if i had other symptoms of serotonin poisoning.
I had 100mg of Mdma and half a dose of acid at that moment, the changa was just one or two tokes ,it was made with extracted Harmaloids , didnt give me a strong reaction at all.
I would say the seizure started 15 to 20 minutes after smoking . The bitten tongue was the only indicator of what happened
(this can be dangerous if the tongue is bleeding too hard or when it is bitten off and swallowed).
The Harmaloids are only one factor of some that made me have this Brain cramp , My Body/Brain was weakened altough ,i felt fine , and there was extreme sensory input at that moment (music lasers videos and lots of strangers) . Not everyone reacts the same to substances , thats for sure , this was just my experience , as someone who appearantly has a higher risk i have to be very careful.
Hard to say how clean the MDMA was , i estimate "pure" looking mdma crystals is about 80% of actual MDMA most of the times (!)
I also experienced another seizure some months earlier where I took adderall , one day after i had smoked some hundred milligrams of rue extract.
My first seizure was without any substances , only the weakened body as a factor, some years before these harmaloid /stimulant related ones.
I hope there wont be a fourth seizure , but then, maybe i already had it and there was just nobody there to notice
It can happen to sensitive people with Acid , Alcohol , mdma , and also other things , like mind machines or the sun.
After the drive to the hospital and intravenous Nacl solution i can say I didnt have a fever . I dont know if i was hot during the Seizure , and i also dont know if i had other symptoms of serotonin poisoning.
I had 100mg of Mdma and half a dose of acid at that moment, the changa was just one or two tokes ,it was made with extracted Harmaloids , didnt give me a strong reaction at all.
I would say the seizure started 15 to 20 minutes after smoking . The bitten tongue was the only indicator of what happened
(this can be dangerous if the tongue is bleeding too hard or when it is bitten off and swallowed).
The Harmaloids are only one factor of some that made me have this Brain cramp , My Body/Brain was weakened altough ,i felt fine , and there was extreme sensory input at that moment (music lasers videos and lots of strangers) . Not everyone reacts the same to substances , thats for sure , this was just my experience , as someone who appearantly has a higher risk i have to be very careful.
Hard to say how clean the MDMA was , i estimate "pure" looking mdma crystals is about 80% of actual MDMA most of the times (!)
I also experienced another seizure some months earlier where I took adderall , one day after i had smoked some hundred milligrams of rue extract.
My first seizure was without any substances , only the weakened body as a factor, some years before these harmaloid /stimulant related ones.
I hope there wont be a fourth seizure , but then, maybe i already had it and there was just nobody there to notice
Observant
Nothing Stops The Void
elru said:
To my understanding thats what causes the Seizure , Convulsion in the Brain + the rest of the body and a resulting shutdown/reboot.
It was very very hot on days , and we where camping for a few days , which was hard on my body , the seizure was at night.
As I said here, people have died from mixing reversible MAO-A inhibitors like harmalas (moclobemide) and MDMA, so I would strongly suggest NOT repeating the same with harmalas. I attached a publication in that post regarding the deaths, seems all those people were trying to potentiate the MDMA effects with the MAOI 
Big Inhale
The Enlightend One
If I take MDMA one day can I smoke changa the next? How long should one wait until they can smoke changa? Whats thd min amount of time 24hrs?
That does not sound like fun, Observant. Did anyone else smoke some at that party while on MDMA? If so did they have any sort of adverse reaction?