TEK Speedy No-Filter Harmalas Tek (draft)

[fractals4life]

That's a good clear set of steps ... one thing that would be nice to know is the proportion of the yield that you got from the final rinse water settling.

 

[TransistorBass]

That's a good clear set of steps ... one thing that would be nice to know is the proportion of the yield that you got from the final rinse water settling.

Its drying now so I'll know tomorrow with a bit of luck. guessing we are looking at 5% yield in total.

 

[Sakkadelic]

I had Lye / Caustic Soda to hand so mixed up 400ml Deionised water with enough Lye to create a saturated solution, I stop when I see crystals not dissolving, leave this mix a few minutes and it will most likely look clear.

having a saturated lye solution is really unnecessary and only makes it more dangerous. I use 100-200g per liter and it's still strong and dangerous, it only takes 20-30 ml to base a 2L rue solution, that is if no excessive amounts of acid were used.

 

[TransistorBass]

Good to know @Sakkadelic thanks

 

[doubledog]

I tried 20mg in the glass pipe, an interesting taste kinda like dusty baked goods leaves a dusty sensation in the mouth but otherwise very very smooth, I'd say this had a similar effect to making Tea from ground Rue Seeds but much more instant in the way the effects hit in their subtle way, the tea would take 30-60 mins to kick in versus 5-10 minutes for the Freebase.

Sublingual route is similar, 25mg under the tongue works very well.

 

[TransistorBass]

Here is the last weigh in, and not insignificant @ 0.549g, in total with the 4.75g above a 5.3% Yield from 100g Syrian Rue seeds. Not bad at all.

 

[q21q21]

Harmala Extraction Synopsis - From Speedy No Filter TEK - My tweaked process

1. Mix and soak 100g Syrian Rue seeds, 30ml Vinegar and 500ml Deionised water in a freezer-proof container to soak for 8 hours then put in the freezer. Defrost then Refreeze.
2. Put your Rue ice cube, if still frozen, in a pan and add 500 ml more deionised water to raise volume to 1000 ml simmer for 40 mins.
3. Using a simple strainer / sieve strain off the liquid into a collection container.
4. Put the seeds back in the pan and cover with just enough water 750ml so everything floats, add 15 ml of Vinegar and bring to a simmer for 20 minutes, strain and repeat this one more time collecting the Rue liquid in the same container as before.
5. Allow to cool. I filled 2x 1 Litre Kilner Jars.
6. I had Lye / Caustic Soda to hand so mixed up 400ml Deionised water with enough Lye to create a saturated solution, I stop when I see crystals not dissolving, leave this mix a few minutes and it will most likely look clear.
7. Incrementally add the Caustic Soda solution to the Rue liquid, keep adding until you see no more changes. You are looking for big grainy clouds of harmalas precipitating out like a clumpy sandstorm!
8. Allow this to settle for 1 hour before giving your jar/s a little jiggle so any floaters start to sink, settle for a further 2 hours in the fridge.
9. After sufficient settling time Decant the clear liquid off into a bucket and retain the sludge in the jar/s. Fill jars with tap water and give a shake.
10. Repeat step 8-9 for between 4-7 times to ensure all caustic solution is washed away. It's like having 1 litre and pouring off 90% of it, refilling with 1 Litre and that dilutes the 10% remaining, this is repeated and is a process of diminishing returns with each rinse further diluting the remaining 10% to the point where caustic is no longer detectable.
11. After your final rinse having very carefully poured off the clear liquid pour the sludge into a heatproof dish to evaporate. I sat mine on the wood burning stove but you could also use an oven set to a low temp with the door open.
12. Once fully dry, carefully scrape up the dry powder, weigh to see what you got (If you care about such things). Bag it up and store in a cool, dark dry place.
13. Allow your retained bucket of Rinse waters to settle, processing the sediment in the same way as steps 8-9 above, and dry as per step 11.

Hows this? I too found it hard not to go a bit wordy on the rinses!

Thanks so much for this. I did edit it quite a bit in the resources to keep the voice 3rd person as well as keeping it generalized, but I kept all your tips and added it to the end of the tek in the resources version, crediting you after the intro.

 

[TransistorBass]

If you are tweaking it may be good to add a safer 'alternative' Caustic step to the way I mixed up my Caustic Soda, but yeah if its been any help I'm gladd and do whatever you want with it.

 

[fractals4life]

I reckon the "hydration bottles" that are out there would make good settling vessel, they are long and thin and often have wide mouths, here's the sort of thing I mean, can be got fairly cheap ( and avoiding amazon too, shop local folks! ): https://www.amazon.com/OLDLEY-Bottles-Motivational-Sports-Bottle/dp/B0CJFRCT2L/?th=1

 

[q21q21]

Hey everyone, I just finished adding the first draft of a VDS-style Tek at the bottom of the Brennendes Wasser style tek I recently did a write up for.

While I have done the procedure twice now, I am a little nervous that as a non-chemist I've missed some things or said something inaccurate. I'd be really grateful if the procedure could be looked over by some people with chemistry knowledge!

This is the tek.

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Super-Easy No-Filter Harmalas Tek

Jan 31, 2026

No filtering, not messy, easy harmalas for all

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You'll find the separation procedure about 3/4 down the page where it says:
== Optional Harmalas Separation ==

 

[q21q21]

~11g of harmaline & ~8.5g of harmine

I hope I did the VDS procedure correctly. Seems like the colors are quite different. I made sure to filter off the harmine 0.1 pH earlier than I should and only took the ones that sunk to the bottom quickly in order to up the purity (I think). Also, I took a mixed fraction during the separation to up the purity as well.

It's quite odd that the water-washed harmalas, assumed to have some slight sodium carbonate impurities, change the point of the pH depression up to 7.8-8.2 rather than the typical 6-7. The 2nd pH depression was between 8.8-9.1. Not sure if that is a good sign or no cause I'm no chemist.

Anyway, I'm stoked to have 42 doses of harmine and I'm looking forward to converting the harmaline to THH in the near future.

 

[Orion]

Really grateful for the clear and concise breakdown of the final separation procedure in the tek, excellent work!

I wonder what happens if you use sodium bicarb/carb instead of ammonia but still use the pH meter to find the pH drops. Will the depression points shift dramatically? Will it just not work at all?