Hello :) I have some DMT

[Kleptocracy]

Hello there,

I've had DMT on my bucket list for a few years now but haven't got round to obtaining any. Recently through a new acquaintance I've managed to bump into people who are into DMT.
I tried some form of not quite pure DMT once at a house party a few weeks ago where I was drunk and knew next to nobody so I was careful not to smoke too much or hold it in too long and had a nice mellow 10 - 15 minute buzz with my eyes closed in the corner of a room. It was nice but nothing like the experience that I am looking for.

Then 2 days ago I ended up with the new acquaintance stopping round at some pretty surreal hippy traveler site and wound up with 0.5g of supposedly pure DMT.

So here I am, doing my research, planning to take DMT with the intention of breaking through, wanting to find out how to do it in the best possible way in order to increase my chances of having the most beneficial experience that I can.

So here's my plan so far.

Read up on experiences and find out the best practice for having a good DMT experience.
Know what I hope to get out of the experience (I realise that I wont get exactly this but I figure it can't do much harm to know what I would like to get out of it)
Stay sober on Friday night so as not to be hungover on Saturday.
Meditate for 15 or 20 minutes beforehand on Saturday afternoon.
Have a friend with me to take the pipe and make sure all is good.
I'm probably going to try it lying in bed rather than downstairs sitting on the sofa for extra comfort.
Put 10-15mg in a "crack pipe" and smoke, hold in for about 3 seconds, take a second toke and hold in as long as possible.
Have no fear, surrender to the DMT, let go and hope for a good experience.
Write down my experience afterwards.

I'll be doing some more research but in the mean time any advice or tips for a first time user looking to break through would be much appreciated

All the best

 

[DmnStr8]

Hold in every toke as long as you can but at least 15 seconds. It can take three or four tokes to breakthrough for some people. Good to start of low but 25-30mg is likely a better breakthrough dose IME.

Nice to have a ritual that surrounds ingesting DMT. It is good to create a safe and comfortable environment. Sounds like you made a good decision to take a light dose at that party. DMT is not a very social drug. It is fun to talk about afterward though. Turning us all into story tellers. When I hear of someone's experience with DMT I hang on every word just fascinated with what it shows each of us.

I hope you have a good experience with DMT and I hope it turns you into a story teller.

:thumb_up:

 

[○]

First off, welcome to the nexus!

Please read this thread. This thread is one among many describing very well how to achieve a thorough experience.
Attn. If you're having a hard time breaking through read this.

I know you didn't directly state that you bought this DMT (although it seemed implied), but just a heads-up, there is absolutely no talk about buying/selling. Only talk of buying/selling legal live plants, seeds, seedlings. Also, we heavily favor the path of extracting your own medicine. There's many tutorials/teks here describing how to do so efficiently. I would start with the FAQ link at the top of the page.

I hope your travels are fruitful.

 

[Kleptocracy]

Hold in every toke as long as you can but at least 15 seconds. It can take three or four tokes to breakthrough for some people. Good to start of low but 25-30mg is likely a better breakthrough dose IME.

Nice to have a ritual that surrounds ingesting DMT. It is good to create a safe and comfortable environment. Sounds like you made a good decision to take a light dose at that party. DMT is not a very social drug. It is fun to talk about afterward though. Turning us all into story tellers. When I hear of someone's experience with DMT I hang on every word just fascinated with what it shows each of us.

I hope you have a good experience with DMT and I hope it turns you into a story teller.

:thumb_up:

Thanks man, I'm working on tidbits of information so that's really helpful. I figured if I held in the first toke for more than 10 seconds I might not be able to take the second but will do. Also, I'd read somebody say they'd done 10-15 and was told by the guy that 5-10mg would be enough first time but he was probably thinking I wanted it for recreational use rather than having a serious experience. I'll plan to go with 25mg first then and hold in as long as possible.

The stories I've read on here and in the past are great, DMT storytellers seem to have a way with words and be able to explain there stories very concisely, I'm not sure if this is another strange benefit of the DMT but it does seem to be a common trait from what I've read.

Cheers, I hope so too :thumb_up:

 

[Kleptocracy]

First off, welcome to the nexus!

Please read this thread. This thread is one among many describing very well how to achieve a thorough experience.
Attn. If you're having a hard time breaking through read this.

I know you didn't directly state that you bought this DMT (although it seemed implied), but just a heads-up, there is absolutely no talk about buying/selling. Only talk of buying/selling legal live plants, seeds, seedlings. Also, we heavily favor the path of extracting your own medicine. There's many tutorials/teks here describing how to do so efficiently. I would start with the FAQ link at the top of the page.

I hope your travels are fruitful.

Thanks Tatt, I'll be more careful with the wording in future.

Thanks for the link as well, that appears to be exactly what I was looking for

 

[Kleptocracy]

I've been looking some more at the different methods and I'm thinking that the sandwich method with a bic lighter is going to be best for me as a beginner as I used to use bongs a lot when I was younger so know how to smoke a bong mix.

I'm a bit worried that people seem to be saying that it takes quite a lot of skill to smoke DMT correctly in order to break through and that I only have 0.5g of DMT to play with and don't want to waste it.

What I was hoping to find was some videos of people using the sandwich method to see it in action or some really good tutorials to read to make sure that I get it right first time.

I couldn't find any decent videos but these 2 articles have given me a good idea (I think):

Attn. If you're having a hard time breaking through read this. - First steps in Hyperspace - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

https://mycotopia.net/topic/77094-how-to-smoke-dmt-using-a-bong/

So what I'm figuring so far is that I should:

Probably do a practice run first with 0.3 - 0.5mg of DMT to test the method then for the proper run...

Fill half the bowl with parsley and pack it down tight but not too tight (test to see that I can still get air through easily enough)
Sprinkle about 25mg of DMT on top of the parsley
Warm it up with a bic / clipper lighter without the flame getting too near the DMT in order to melt the DMT into the parsley without igniting it
Put a thin layer of ash over the DMT to protect the DMT from the flame
Add some more parsley
Carefully flick a lighter over the bowl while sucking the bong until the parsley catches fire then suck hard until you fill up the bong with smoke, open the valve and inhale.

If that all sounds about right then I still have 2 questions that I'm unsure about.

Is it best to use a stirrer like a pocket knife to help light the whole bowl?

Do I need to use the lighter again to attempt to take a second hit or would a stirrer be more useful or shouldn't I need to use either?

Thanks again

 

[○]

here, this might be easier -



Put a generous layer of herb on the bottom, make sure it's packed tight. The DMT will melt into that.

Layer DMT over top of that

Then put a light layer on top of the DMT, but making sure to cover it completely.


*** Wave the lighter over top, allowing the top layer to catch a cherry. Drag long, deep and slow. Hold 15+.

*** Repeat til :surprised

 

[Kleptocracy]

Thanks Tatt, so I'll need to relight for round 2 then yeah? Hopefully I'll be with it just enough to get the second blast done right!

 

[3rdI]

you dont need 2 hits, just 1 proper one

 

[Mr. Curious]

Welcome. You seem to have the right attitude. Let us know how it goes!

 

[Kleptocracy]

you dont need 2 hits, just 1 proper one

Cool, I just want to try to make sure I break through first go. To be fair though, being careful not to over do it as somebody who's never tried it before (I'm pretty sure now that the small blast I tried at a party was Changa) is probably a sensible option. Maybe packing 25mg and taking one big strong hit would be the sensible idea and see what happens. I still have the second attempt as backup and can always try to get hold of more at a later date if I don't get the experience I'm looking for and saves messing about getting the second hit going.

Welcome. You seem to have the right attitude. Let us know how it goes!

Thank you sir, I will do. I'll have my mate with me potentially recording the experience and will ask him to ask me a few questions at the end.

What happened, what did you learn, did you meet anyone, where did you go.

If all goes to plan, best case scenario I'll be able to post some awesome out of this world answers for you on Saturday.

 

[3rdI]

morning, Kleptocracy

i didnt mean you should necessarily go for a full on dose right away, i just wanted to point out that the whole "you must take the 3rd hit" idea is not true, full on Magical experiences are very obtainable from a single hit, especially if you have experience with smoking mixes.

you said you only have a small amount of Magic, i would take my time with that and then extract some of your own, its pretty simple, very rewarding and a small effort will get you enough Magic to last a while.

what you will get from a breakthrough is so far beyond what you can imagine its ridiculous.

be careful what you wish for:twisted: :lol:

good luck:thumb_up:

 

[wesker]

smoking on the bed is a good choice, pretty comfortable, make sure that the guy/girl who takes care of you dont speak to you while you are tripping, not a word or single question, this may break your concentration and bend your trip to somewhere else, also if you have a tv looke for some lsd - ish visuals on youtube that last at least 20 minutes and play them in full screen, this might help you at first to run your visuals and tell the one who will take care of you to sit out of your sight to make you feel like you are alone so your trip will be more personal focused and you wont be distracted of what would the other person may think later or laugh or anything.

the no noises, questions, talking and out of sight part are very very important as a first timer.

its not all about safety but setting up the place for a very special first deep aproach to your innerself and hyperspace.

 

[3rdI]

because you are just beginning your adventures i would avoid the youtube trippy video suggestion, if you want to engage in the Magic then pay attention to the Magic.

lie down in the dark and pay very close attention to what happens.

 

[Kleptocracy]

Hello again,


I just now did a test drive with 5mg magic, I'm guessing by the fact that I'm not sure if it was a breakthrough it probably wasn't but was a beautiful experience anyway.

Straight away there was colours, I realised there was nothing to be afraid of. There was a being made of very intricate patterns trying to grab my attention and make me focus, pointing to somewhere near it's belly, grabbing my head and pushing it towards where it wanted me to focus. Unfortunately my mind was wandering and the being couldn't gain my attention to what it wanted me to focus on. I knew that on Saturday I need to meditate properly before hand to fully clear my mind of thought so that the DMT can take my focus. I felt that I shouldn't be recording as that was distracting me and it should be an intricate experience between me and the DMT. I'll have a look at the video I created and may post it but Saturday's experience probably won't have a video.

Thanks for all your advice so far, it's been very helpful and I'll talk again when I'm sober.

 

[MONSTERFlush]

25-35 mg's seems to be my sweet spot as well with the GVG. More often than not a light dose is actually somewhat uncomfortable IME. If you get through the "outer atmosphere" the turbulence quickly subsides, the fear vanishes and you are then shown perfection. Also as others have posted make sure you have ZERO distractions before/during the journey. Here is an awesome article on how to have a good session...
How to Prepare a Spiritual DMT Ceremony

 

[Kleptocracy]

Hey,

Sorry to disappoint but my bong was loaded with 5mg that I had considered doing while drunk but thought better of it so I decided to do that rather than a full dose but I made sure I burned it all this time which I hadn't done last time, which was why I now realise that the first experience was very weak in comparison to this one.

I tidied my room earlier, had a shower beforehand, meditated, went on a walk, came back, watched a short relaxing video, meditated a little more then picked the bong up.

Again I can't have broke through because of the low dose but I felt myself in a seemingly light speed warp to what appeared to be another dimension. I breathed out earlier than I had intended because the intensity of the experience scared the tish out of me. I hadn't doubted that I was ready before but questioned in the first seconds whether I was ready or not and was asking the DMT in a panicky manner to please look after me and make me feel at ease (this was all while heading through).

I got to the other side and I remember thrusting forward and dribbling over my chest uncontrollably for a second (although I didn't dribble in real life) , I then started to feel at ease. I was making loud funny noises that would echo but in a different way to normal like I was in a raindrop (Echoing alien baby noises might be a good way to describe them), by this point I was laughing very loudly and giggling at the beauty of it. The DMT bought about a matrix like image of my room that was like a computer scanned image surrounded by a box of patterns and colours which put me even further at ease. I know that I can't remember a lot of what happened next because I remember that I was forgetting a lot as I was starting to come back round but I know it was very awesome whatever it was. This experience the same as the last one didn't seem to last long at all which I'm a little disappointed about but I guess that's what happens when you take small doses and don't hold them in for long.

I've got to admit I'm a little more scared now to up the dose too much, I guess I now have more respect for it than I did before.

Either way, I'm planning now to do 15mg for my next go. Given what I experienced with 5mg and that I now only have 40mg left, does this sound like a sensible dose to try next so that I can move to 25mg if I don't break through at 15?

Thanks for that link Monstor flush, it was very helpful and again thanks to everybody else that has offered advice so far.

Cheers

 

[Francois]

I think you may have got a little confused over mass. You say in the OP that you were given 0.5 g and that after two 5 mg doses you now have 40 mg. Well 0.5 g is 500 mg not 50 mg (milli- is a prefix that means 'one-thousandth' of the unit in question). 5 mg is certainly not too much, I'm sure many people do feel something on 5 mg but for me at least (and I am no heavyweight at all by anyone's standards!) would have negligible effects. However if you were having 50 mg (1/10 of your original amount) each time this would be extremely strong if it were vaporized efficiently, nearly double the amount I generally need to go places (other people will vary).

I've generally been a GVG person and now I have finally made some changa I'm going to have to get the bong technique up to scratch, but for now I can offer no advice for more efficient use of your remaining spice using the sandwich method.

Just wanted to warn you in case you had been doing 50 mg each time because if you did 150 mg or 200 mg thinking it were only 15/20 mg...that would not be good! You'd likely blackout and would probably not remember what had happened but had a strong feeling it was not pleasant..

I suggest looking into getting a pair of milligram scales.

 

[Kleptocracy]

Holy ....! Thanks so much for the warning!

I'm scared of what might have been, I'm usually good at maths so that mistake was massively schoolboy. That probably explains why it was a scary experience, I guess having low tolerance and doing a big 50mg bong hit (Lit and smoked the whole bowl with a gap to breath in and out to get a full lungful) is not likely to lead to a good experience. I guess I should be thankful that I breathed out so quickly and started taking deep breaths to try to counter the effects that were coming on.

Knowing that, I'm guessing I did break through then but probably took far too much for a beginner which is why the experience was tarnished with fear and a lack of memory. I'm surprised the experience seemed so short knowing that. I don't know if I met any beings as I had a feeling I may have done but like I say I can't remember a lot of it possibly due to taking too much.

Thanks a lot again for the warning, I feel like such an idiot.

 

[The Traveler]

Changed the title of this thread as to not give the wrong intentions.


Kind regards,

The Traveler