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Parallelograms

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I've been reading this forum for quite a while and I thought it is time to join in.

I am interested in quite a lot of stuff including music, the arts, literature, philosophy, audioengineering, cooking and of course: The sacred medicines!

Since most people around me react alienated when I discuss with them my ideas about Psychedelics, I think this is a good place to share my thoughts.

My path with these substances began with LSD, with which I had quite a few healing and revelatory experiences, tough I later completely abandoned it in favor of the mushrooms. With them I have a established quite a relationship over the years. I prefer to take them at night in silence, listening in and paying attention to what they are showing me. I use them as a healing tool to clear up my mind and refocus my intentions and attitude.

I never had an experience with DMT because honestly, when I read reports it just seems too scary. But as I progress in my explorations of Psylocibin it is getting weirder and weirder, resembling the themes people report to encounter inside the DMT flash: The Hyperspace Clowns, Elf Chatter, organic machines, the Nursery, the feeling of traveling or becoming alien landscapes, transformation of language into Hyperspace objects etc.

So I think it is time to take the plunge.

Hi to you all

Gratefully

Parallelograms
 
Hello PLG,

A warm welcome to the Nexus...

After everything you've read about DMT, isn't it possible that experiencing very similar phenomena on mushrooms is a result of a certain degree of auto-suggestion?

If you are going to try DMT I would refrain from taking the plunge if I were you, getting your toes wet first certainly wouldn't hurt... Start with low doses and take it from there...there is enough fun to be had at sub-breakthrough levels, don't worry ;)

Regardless of your past experiences with psychedelics, please consider inviting someone to be your sitter - I mention this because it appears that you are used to "traveling" solo...

I hope this doesn't come across as patronizing, if so I offer you my sincere apologies...

PLUR
 
Hi dooby

Yes, the thing about auto-suggestion, I was wondering about that too. I think it plays a huge part in the experience because the relation of object and observer is so different because it happens all internally. Also these substances tend to get you in a kind of suggestive state, like under hypnosis, where you can relate to any kind of crazy ideas.

But then, the last time I took them was with a friend and we did a nice little ceremony, burning incense, meditating before the trip, and I was in a really calm state not expecting anything. But as soon as the visions started I found myself in this cartoonish, circus like place, with loud babbling and chattering and fractal madness everywhere. But I don't know, these things are so hard to describe. Putting it in words feels a bit like destroying the memory of it. The words replace the actual memory.

I dont't know, I don't even expect DMT to be similar. It's just the words people have found to describe DMT trips. I can easily apply them to my mushroom experiences, so I'm curious.

And yes of course, I'm planning to start really low. But I think it will be a plunge anyway :)
 
Parallel,

Interesting that you perceive a similarity between psilocybin and DMT- you're the first person I've read that has mentioned the connection, which I think has some real validity. I have noticed that mushrooms and DMT seem to share certain aspects in terms of how they are experienced.. Especially in terms of open and closed-eye visuals. Some have suggested that the body actually synthesizes Psilocybin in a way similar to DMT, which could account for the similarities. I wish I remembered or had a link to where I heard this info, but I believe it was a forum/panel discussion with Rick Strassman. I remember there was even speculation about the possibility of psilocybin being synthesized into DMT itself! Especially intriguing since the psilocybin and DMT molecules aren't all that different. Fascinating topic, thanks for bringing it up!


Benjamin James
 
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