Help needed for the right order of ingredients

[cactus2013]

Good day community,

I received from a shaman friend ingredients for making Ayahuasca, unfortunately the plants are already grinded and I can't remember which of the plants I should make into tea first.

The recipe involves making tea out of one, drinking it and after an hour the other one. One is pink and one is dark red (Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the plants)

Based on your experiences, could you please advise me if you recongnize it by colour?

Any help will do. (wrong order it will produce no effect)

Thank you very much for your help

 

[Gone-and-Back]

If I remember correctly, MHRB is pink in color when powderized. The darker stuff could be syrian rue, for it looks the right color compared to the rue seeds I have ground up. However, I am not one hundred percent sure on this. I am only guessing and going off of things I have seen and read in the past, so do not take what I say to heart.

Hopefully someone more knowledged in brewing Aya can chime in on this.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

you can brew them both together.

 

[Jin]

the pinkish one in the first pic is mimosa , the second pic dark red is rue

try tasting them just a pinch on the tongue

the mimosa tastes like dry powder

the rue is bitter

also just take 2 grams of each and brew them if your're still not sure after tasting the powder

 

[ouro]

how well do you trust your 'shaman friend'? I'd ask them what the two mystery bags have in them and do some research before ingesting any of that. I never saw rue so red, but I never left it ground up exposed to air for a long time.

 

[Michal_R]

how well do you trust your 'shaman friend'? I'd ask them what the two mystery bags have in them...

This is probably a good idea... (I also haven´t seen Rue that would be this red)

 

[cactus2013]

Thank you for the replies.

The color of the rue is darker because of the low light in the room when I took the pictures.

Tasted them both: the pink one is very dry, no peculiar taste and the second one is bitter.

I kept them in plastic bags, in a dark, dry environment.

As I studied multiple recipes and all suggest both plants should be mixed together, but has anyone tried making separate brews and take them an hour apart?

Thank you

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Doing the seperate brews gives more of a chance for it to not work. If you wait to long or drink the second brew too soon, it may not work due to the timing of MAO-inhibition.

Best bet would be to brew up 2-3g of the rew, along with however much mimosa you plan on taking (I recommend looking into dosages, due to its high tryptamine percentage). When there is enough MAOIs present in the brew, they will work on the MAO enzymes before the MAO has a chance to attack the tryptamines.

 

[Jin]

As I studied multiple recipes and all suggest both plants should be mixed together, but has anyone tried making separate brews and take them an hour apart?

brew them separately , and take mimosa 20 minutes or sooner after the rue don't wait an hour or it might not work

also syrian rue powder does not need to be brewed just steep it in boiling water , this is how , pour boiling water on syrian rue powder in a cup and keep mixing it with a spoon for 20 minutes till the water cools down , then let it settle , drink the greenish water from the top and throw the sludge away

also mimosa needs to be brewed longer , brew mimosa 3 times for 1 hour each , them combine and reduce , while brewing or reducing remember to keep the heat low as boiling will only destroy the actives or convert them to n-oxide , also add some lemon to make sure the actives stay active for longer

also while tripping remember to get your music and play it loud

 

[cactus2013]

Thank you very much for your guidance.

Does anyone know a complete list of MAOI diet?

I found just simple ones on erowind and other ayahuasca forums, but i did't find:

bran, sesame seeds, flax seeds, grain cereals

or what is not strictly on the forbidden list is okay to eat?

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

Does anyone know a complete list of MAOI diet?

no need for a special diet with RIMA.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Does anyone know a complete list of MAOI diet?

no need for a special diet with RIMA.

Exactly. Harmala alkaloids are RIMAs, reversable inhibitors of MAO, there for if the MAO is needed to break something down due to food toxins, it should be able to kick out the RIMA and work on breaking down something else.