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Hi. I’m hoping someone can help me since I don’t feel like trying 5 new techniques.

Anyway I wasn’t able to get the powdered this time so I opted for the whole bark (I didn’t want to wait). The 2 coffee grinders I bought won’t work. Can anyone please tell me they’ve done this before and which method will work best for whole bark. Or can someone refer me to a grinder that can actually powder up the bark.

Thank you!
 
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MBmom,

Hmm, sounds like you will need to either get a very strong blender or plan on manually (by hand) chopping the bark into ever smaller pieces.

I'm not surprised coffee grinders are not working on whole bark chunks. Maybe if you reduced the bark chunks to the approximate size of coffee beans it would help but not sure.

This does sound a bit frustrating. Though, it sounds like you may be experienced and when one really thinks about it, DMT really is worth the wait.

I am confident one way or another you will get there.
 
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MBmom said:
Hi. I’m hoping someone can help me since I don’t feel like trying 5 new techniques.

Anyway I wasn’t able to get the powdered this time so I opted for the whole bark (I didn’t want to wait). The 2 coffee grinders I bought won’t work. Can anyone please tell me they’ve done this before and which method will work best for whole bark. Or can someone refer me to a grinder that can actually powder up the bark.

Thank you!
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You need a heavy-duty herb grinder with a stainless steel body. Otherwise, go for an A/B method by cooking the bark in acidified water a few times, then proceed with the extraction pretty much as usual (if you're accustomed to STB methods) from that point. There's a section of the forum dedicated to A/B where you'll find more details on this.
 
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I think the whole bark is industrially processed with a hammer mill, a little expensive. But for a small amount it might work to freeze and use a hammer. I've used a blender to take it from shredded to powder.
 
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Nydex said:
Hello,

When you say the grinders "won't work" what exactly do you mean? The grinders themselves are broken or in some other way dysfunctional, or they're unable to break down your bark at all? If the latter is what you meant, how big are the bark chunks on average?
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Yes. I am burning out the motor… but I haven’t used a full size blender just the smaller personal ones.
 
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Transform said:
You need a heavy-duty herb grinder with a stainless steel body. Otherwise, go for an A/B method by cooking the bark in acidified water a few times, then proceed with the extraction pretty much as usual (if you're accustomed to STB methods) from that point. There's a section of the forum dedicated to A/B where you'll find more details on this.
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Yes I usually do the a half assed version of STB anyway where I soak it in either vinegar or hydrochloric acid. So what you’re saying is that will work fine … just strain it after? I remember reading about freezing it awhile ago and I really don’t want to do that. I can hardly even wait while I’m freezing the Naptha. As soon as I see it freezing up I pull it out lol.
 
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Pandora said:
MBmom,

Hmm, sounds like you will need to either get a very strong blender or plan on manually (by hand) chopping the bark into ever smaller pieces.

I'm not surprised coffee grinders are not working on whole bark chunks. Maybe if you reduced the bark chunks to the approximate size of coffee beans it would help but not sure.

This does sound a bit frustrating. Though, it sounds like you may be experienced and when one really thinks about it, DMT really is worth the wait.

I am confident one way or another you will get there.
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Is it really tho? I am really really bad at waiting.
But ya I’m gonna get to work now.
Thank you
 
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Icon said:
I think the whole bark is industrially processed with a hammer mill, a little expensive. But for a small amount it might work to freeze and use a hammer. I've used a blender to take it from shredded to powder.
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I was honestly thinking about using my mini sledgehammer I think it would help but then it would be hard to keep all the shards and powder together… anything I put it on will most likely break.
Thank you

Actually just ordered another blender .. a bigger one. But for tonight I’ll figure something out
 
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Yeah, smack the hell out of it with a lump hammer by all means, but if you particularly wanted to make progress during the waiting time, doing a 'proper' A/B, with multiple acidic cooks of the bark, always remains an option for the resulting crushed bark.

Either way, it'll spare a bit of wear and tear on your new grinder! It's probably worth pre-crushing the bark each time if you fancy the exercise.
 
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MBmom said:
I was honestly thinking about using my mini sledgehammer I think it would help but then it would be hard to keep all the shards and powder together… anything I put it on will most likely break.
Thank you

Actually just ordered another blender .. a bigger one. But for tonight I’ll figure something out
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Hmmm yea maybe do it in a burlap sack over a stump or something. Could make a sacrificial anvil out of a bucket of quikrete. If I had the time I'd also pre-treat it with liquid nitrogen or a water soak + freeze. Anything to increase it's brittleness.
 
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We used to use heavy duty pruning shears to cut the bark into smallish pieces and do very small batches at a time in a blender, slowly blend for 30 seconds, stop and let sit for a minute, blend for 30 moar, and so on. To even get it to shearing size, you can put it in a pillowcase or similar fabric bag and mash it up with a hammer.

After blending, the result will be a lot of stringy fiberous material that will just never blend down and some powdered material at the bottom of the blender. I'm not sure if the fibrous material contains alkaloids or not, but I'd always include it in the extraction just to make sure I wasn't losing anything.
 
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dreamer042 said:
After blending, the result will be a lot of stringy fiberous material that will just never blend down and some powdered material at the bottom of the blender.
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I just had flashbacks to my entire kitchen being covered in pink dust. Did you also notice a lot of airborne particles? Any tips how to control that without waiting long periods between handfuls of bark?
 
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