Hi, DMT saved me.

[yamma1]

Hi there,

Been here a while, have posted a few questions and have gained so much knowledge from this forum, So, thanks to all here, some genuine and honest people I see.

2013 was the worst year ever for me, without going too much into the personal situation, it involved my state of mind, and issues with my daughter ( her state of mind ) I became dependant on Etizolam, didn't even realise how much I was being effected by it until I was called into the boss's office at work and told I was unfit for work. oh dear. then it hit me lol. I immediately stopped taking them ( didn't taper off) and had a seizure, to which my daughter witnessed. This was one massive wake up call!!

I now take Nothing for anxiety, I have learned to deal with it, some days harder than others, but as a rule I am now focused on life. My daughter is so much better within herself after she had her issues aired and she is so much more content, which has a good knock on effect on me as I am happy she is happy

Now, I said DMT saved me, I was really already on the road to recovery when DMT entered my life, But I'm so glad it did. I really focused on extraction and really enjoyed that part of the process. certainly one hell of an eye ( or mind ) opener :roll:

I will try and be helpful to others here, I will do my best to make sure I search the forum before asking new questions.

Peace

 

[Shanghigher]

Welcome, Yamma!

I'm living, breathing proof of the positive effects psychs of all shapes and sizes can have on combating one's darker side.

Since junking everything else for lucy and mesc, my life changed massively for the positive. DMT is still new to me, but it is rapidly developing a warm place in my heart

 

[yamma1]

nice one, glad to hear it mate

 

[terrymcniven]

Hey yamma, Im going through thee worst time of my life just now, I was addicted to opiates for nearly 7 years, mainly heroin so I went to my doctor, he put me on a methadone prescription, which was a life saver at the time, but after being on methadone for 2+ years and bored from all the hastles that goes with a Methadone treament programmeI decided to walk away cold turkey, Im now 1 week 1 day into my withdrawl from 40ml/40mg dose (i was away up at 70ml/mg but decided to taper down to a dose i thought would be manageable in withdrwing from) but its not, I plan on doing my first ayahuasca dose soon (when cash permits) As a mate of mine went down that road during his troubled years, he never looked back and swears by it. My WD's are intense to say the least, I have no intention of ever returning to opiates for any reason, as Ive had enough to be honest, Im only 26 years young and ive lost a decade nearly to the bad and the worse. Methadone is evil too be honest, the government are making billions from our missery thats why it should be stopped as a treatment for opi addiction, as it is worse by weight than the evil brown powder i lost so much too

 

[yamma1]

Hey yamma, Im going through thee worst time of my life just now, I was addicted to opiates for nearly 7 years, mainly heroin so I went to my doctor, he put me on a methadone prescription, which was a life saver at the time, but after being on methadone for 2+ years and bored from all the hastles that goes with a Methadone treament programmeI decided to walk away cold turkey, Im now 1 week 1 day into my withdrawl from 40ml/40mg dose (i was away up at 70ml/mg but decided to taper down to a dose i thought would be manageable in withdrwing from) but its not, I plan on doing my first ayahuasca dose soon (when cash permits) As a mate of mine went down that road during his troubled years, he never looked back and swears by it. My WD's are intense to say the least, I have no intention of ever returning to opiates for any reason, as Ive had enough to be honest, Im only 26 years young and ive lost a decade nearly to the bad and the worse. Methadone is evil too be honest, the government are making billions from our missery thats why it should be stopped as a treatment for opi addiction, as it is worse by weight than the evil brown powder i lost so much too

good luck to you mate, I cannot even begin to imagine what it must be like for you, but what I can do is wish you luck, Just maybe a ayahuasca trip just might show you enough inspiration to move past this time. stick with it buddy, hope it all works out, Just remember, in life there will always be ups and downs, Just try and reassure yourself during the downs that the "ups" will feel even better as you have something to compare to.

 

[terrymcniven]

good luck to you mate, I cannot even begin to imagine what it must be like for you, but what I can do is wish you luck, Just maybe a ayahuasca trip just might show you enough inspiration to move past this time. stick with it buddy, hope it all works out, Just remember, in life there will always be ups and downs, Just try and reassure yourself during the downs that the "ups" will feel even better as you have something to compare to.

Thanks alot for the luck dude, its much appreciated, and yeah i know theres nothing but up from here as i dont think my body could be in any more pain than it is,as they say pain is temporary, pride is forever, its onward and up from here on in
Peace :thumb_up:

 

[null24]

Oh jeez buddy, thats a pretty far jump. Getting off methadone is tricky. The real key is a slow taper and hanging at one mg for several weeks as your body slowly releases as much as it can. It has a 24hr half life, so if you were on 40, you still have 20 from the previous day still in you and so on. Sitting at 1 for a long time allows that to catch up.

Shoot, best of luck but seriously dude, be careful, pm me if you want to talk about things you dont want to post.

 

[elvendream]

Glad to hear you're doing better! :thumb_up:

 

[hug46]

Oh jeez buddy, thats a pretty far jump. Getting off methadone is tricky.

I agree with Null. I tapered down from 80mg to 1mg every two days and found it fairly painless (although this was over a 10 year period ). I once stopped on 5mg and didn"t enjoy the experience. I felt rough for months afterwards. 40mg straight to nothing would be too difficult for me. I don"t envy you Terrymcniven and wish you the best of luck.

I will add that since i have been doing DMT regularly that my cravings have subsided to almost zero. I do not know whether it is the DMT doing this or my resolve to give up. Or perhaps the two working in tandem.

 

[terrymcniven]

thanks for the support, its greatly appreciated, im still hanging in there, its got to the point now that my body cant hurt anymore than it has, and i do see a light at the end of the tunnel, if you had asked me a while back if i ever saw a light at the end of the tunnel, i would have said no not for me, but just having all my loved ones who care deeply about me and who have helped me get by these trickiest of days, has given me the strength i needed to get me through this, and knowing that i'll never have to go through this hell hole again urges me forward.

 

[yamma1]

This forum has so many people with so many experiences, in life in general. pretty much guaranteed that whatever situation you find your self in, there will be someone here who has been somewhere similar and come out the other end.

Its a really supportive forum with great people. glad I found it

 

[Al-Wasi]

Good to hear man. Its so unbelievable that are governments make these life changing molecules illegal. I myself was literally cured in a few hours time.from an MDMA experience. It truly saddens me that there is help available to all that suffer from.addiction in the form of MDMA DMT aya LSD shrooms etc yet they are looked at as dangerous and addictive drugs by the so called authorities.

Good luck to you man glad your here.

 

[Trancend]

Kratom, another plant that is under the DEAs watchful eye is likely soon to be banned. It saved my life from opiates. Kratom has saved many people close to me with moderate to severe opiate addictions. If anyone is interested I can provide more info on this plant. But please do not support "headshop" kratom, as these people are only bringing negative attention to this amazing medicine.

The sacred mushroom changed my life, as well. Not quite DMT, although I have had breakthrough experiences with it as well.

 

[Synkromystic]

Good to hear man. Its so unbelievable that are governments make these life changing molecules illegal. I myself was literally cured in a few hours time.from an MDMA experience. It truly saddens me that there is help available to all that suffer from.addiction in the form of MDMA DMT aya LSD shrooms etc yet they are looked at as dangerous and addictive drugs by the so called authorities.

Good luck to you man glad your here.

Govern- to control
ment(e) - Mind

It's what governments do best

 

[terrymcniven]

Kratom, another plant that is under the DEAs watchful eye is likely soon to be banned. It saved my life from opiates. Kratom has saved many people close to me with moderate to severe opiate addictions. If anyone is interested I can provide more info on this plant. But please do not support "headshop" kratom, as these people are only bringing negative attention to this amazing medicine.

The sacred mushroom changed my life, as well. Not quite DMT, although I have had breakthrough experiences with it as well.

Hey trancend, Kratom is one enthobotanical I have yet to try, I have read a few things regarding its power to help recovering opiate addicts, after reading about it i thought about buying some to help relieve my acheing body, but know nothing about this plant could you tell me your experiences with this? Thanks

 

[Trancend]

I would be honored to.

First you must measure your tolerance in relation to traditional opiods. For example when you take hydrocodone for dental pain , how many miligrams do you need?

If you are using it for pain generally kratom is active at 2-3 grams for full analgesic effects, that's without tolerance. I take about 6-8 grams of average kratom for every dose but I have a light opiod tolerance. So you will feel roughly as if you have taken 5-7.5 miligrams of hydro or oxycodone at about 3 grams. However there are many many strains and like cannanbis each one has its own unique effects , albeit subtle and more noticeable to aficionados like myself.

To simplify things for you, also like cannabis kratom has two major categories one with a more "stimulating" effect called "green vein" ( and sometimes white vein ) which can be compared to a pleasurable euphoric coffee buzz and the other is "red vein" kratom which is more on the sedative side and closer to a traditional opiate effect. However both types of kratom possess stimulating and sedative effects, the reds tend to be more sedating while the green/white tend to be more stimulating.

The initial buzz from any kratom comes on stimulating. I feel more motivated, more sociable and general mood lift is enormous. After about an hour the effect wanes and the sedative effect becomes more pronounced.

Kratom is a complex plant which contains DOZENS of active alkaloids which interact synergistically with each other. Amongst these alkaloids are both mu opiod agonists and antagonists, which prevents tolerance and addiction. Also kratom has been called the "opiod with a ceiling effect" which is further anti-addictive properties built in to the leaf. If you try to dose too high you will experience nausea, dizziness and dysphoria. I have eaten up to 30 grams at once and just felt very ill for 5 hours as opposed to the usual pleasurable effects. Mytraganine is the main active alkaloid in Kratom responsible for its opiod-like effects. Interestingly Mytraganine is a TRYPTAMINE. Kratom also seems to have naturally occurring anti-depressant and anxiolytic compounds. IMHO kratom is an AMAZING medicinal plant. But it needs to be respected and used wisely. Even when used recklessly its amazing safety profile will keep you from really causing damage to yourself.

With my personal experience I have been using up to 15 grams daily with no major side effects. Normally with an opiate you experience rapid tolerance. I have not changed my dosage in more than a year and still receive full effects. The key is to switch strains up as your body will get accustomed to one strains alkaloid profile. The withdrawal is about is bad as quiting cannabis after daily use. A few restless nights, a general feeling of cold like symptoms, some general anxiety etc. If you taper down these effects are to an even lesser degree. A far cry from real opiod withdrawal to say the least. I have successfully helped several severely opiate dependant people close to me get off and stay off completely. They now use kratom occasionally. One person continues to use kratom frequently but has straightened themselves out.

Now I must warn you kratom is extremely pleasurable and is very habit forming as it acts on the same receptors as traditional opiates and you will get all the tradional opiate effects and side effects HOWEVER the big difference is the lack of tolerance and the ease of ceasing to use kratom.

I recommend checking out the kratom association and Kratom connoisseurs for more information on health/safety, legality, verified vendors, harm reduction and activism in regards to this amazing medicinal herb. I cannot stress how helpful it has been to me and its safety profile/lack severe side effects is astonishing for how much this plant has to offer. There is a political war against this plant and it would be truly heartbreaking to lose yet another natural medicine to big pharma.

I found this discussion about kratom quite informative here on the nexus Meditation with Kratom - Spirituality & Mysticism - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[cmo999]

>just now, I was addicted to opiates for nearly 7 years, mainly heroin so I went to my doctor, he put me on a methadone prescription, which was a life saver at the time, but after being on methadone for 2+ years and bored from all the hastles that goes with a Methadone treament programmeI decided to walk away cold turkey, Im now 1 week 1 day into my withdrawl from 40ml/40mg dose (i was away up at 70ml/mg but decided to taper down to a dose i thought would be manageable in withdrwing from) but its not, I plan on doing my first ayahuasca dose soon (when cash permits) As a mate of mine went down that road during his


yamma1, if you are thinking of taking a psychedelic that is non opioid while going through opiate withdrawal syndrome, DO NOT DO IT!!!!! I was addicted to opiates as well, and going through the cycle of withdrawal/pain high/bliss over and over again, as I'm sure you are familiar with if you were addicted to opiates. One night, when I did not have any opiates but I had some 2-ce, I decided to take the psychedelic. It was the longest night of my life! i HATED IT! The psychedelic made me acutely aware of the opiate withdrawal and intensified it to the tenth degree. I was having delusions about being injured on a battlefield and being in pain. I was in pain.

After that experience, I absolutely cannot stand the effects of opiate withdrawal! I used to go through it on a regular basis, and while it was very unpleasant, I was able to bare it. After that, even a little bit of withdrawals would remind me of that night and send me into a panic.

That is exactly why I got on the methadone program, to stop the endless cycle of withdrawal/pain high/bliss. What I didn't know at the time, was that the withdrawal from methadone is at least ten times worse than the withdrawal from any other opiate. It's because it lasts so long. Morphine, for example, lasts an hour or two, and takes 2 - 3 or maybe 4 days to get past the withdrawal when you've been taking it regularly for a while. Methadone, on the other hand, lasts for 24 hours - and the time it takes to get through the withdrawals is proportionate to that!

My humble advice: If you really quit methadone cold-turkey, which I find hard to believe because you would be in a world of pain for weeks, but if you did, the last thing you should ever consider doing is a psychedelic! That will make you hyper aware of your nervous system, and make the pain of withdrawal a magnitude of times worse!

 

[yamma1]

yamma1, if you are thinking of taking a psychedelic that is non opioid while going through opiate withdrawal syndrome, DO NOT DO IT!!!!! I was addicted to opiates as well, and going through the cycle of withdrawal/pain high/bliss over and over again, as I'm sure you are familiar with if you were addicted to opiates. One night, when I did not have any opiates but I had some 2-ce, I decided to take the psychedelic. It was the longest night of my life! i HATED IT! The psychedelic made me acutely aware of the opiate withdrawal and intensified it to the tenth degree. I was having delusions about being injured on a battlefield and being in pain. I was in pain.

Hey dude, Thanks, but if you read all the posts above, you will see its not me on withdrawel from opiates! it is terrymcniven. I have never done or taken them. my original post explains I became dependant on Etizolam, which is a benzo.

Thanks anyway.

 

[Trancend]

Kratom, another plant that is under the DEAs watchful eye is likely soon to be banned. It saved my life from opiates. Kratom has saved many people close to me with moderate to severe opiate addictions. If anyone is interested I can provide more info on this plant. But please do not support "headshop" kratom, as these people are only bringing negative attention to this amazing medicine.

The sacred mushroom changed my life, as well. Not quite DMT, although I have had breakthrough experiences with it as well.

Hey trancend, Kratom is one enthobotanical I have yet to try, I have read a few things regarding its power to help recovering opiate addicts, after reading about it i thought about buying some to help relieve my acheing body, but know nothing about this plant could you tell me your experiences with this? Thanks

Shit I didn't realize that you were addicted to opiates....In that case I can recommend BALI RED VEIN....YOu may have to take 15 grams or so depending on your tolerance. And you may have to shop around for the right vendor carrying the strongest stuff...I can tell you though...tapering and jumping from kratom IS PAINLESS....Im pretty sure you may be able to eliminate the chance of PAWS....that is if you take the kratom during the PAWS phase....I would research in to this possibility as Ive read that KRATOM dependant people that quit go through either a short period of, or NO PAWS AT all. Even if Kratom causes PAWS its certainly going to be whole lot easier than say Methadone PAWS.

Inbox me if you need help. Ive helped point several in the right direction to GET OFF Heroin completely!

 

[SpartanII]

Methadone is evil too be honest, the government are making billions from our missery thats why it should be stopped as a treatment for opi addiction, as it is worse by weight than the evil brown powder i lost so much too

Obviously there are no inherently "evil" drugs- people are responsible for their own addiction, not drugs, but I do understand your sentiment, as I too have been on Methadone Maintenance Treatment, in my case for a 10 year addiction to oxycodone then IV heroin.

MMT did not work for me. It was not only highly inconvenient, it became another energy-draining crutch. I soon went back to heroin.

Kratom proved to be effective in easing the heroin withdrawals when I finally decided to stop doing it.

If you are using it for pain generally kratom is active at 2-3 grams for full analgesic effects, that's without tolerance. I take about 6-8 grams of average kratom for every dose but I have a light opiod tolerance. So you will feel roughly as if you have taken 5-7.5 miligrams of hydro or oxycodone at about 3 grams.

Hmmm, there are many factors involved, so I would find it difficult to generalize how one would "feel" at a given dosage, especially when you are using your subjective experience as a reference point.