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Higher planes of existence and the chakras

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Shoe

Thank you for this lovely thread my friend. Have you read The Tibetan Book Of The Dead? If you haven't check it out if you can. When I smoke spice my heart chakra unfurls open, releasing my consciousness which is expelled up and out through my crown chakra. Chakras are defiantly physically present as I have experienced their presence for myself.

Open your eyes and you will see... I have always been able to see certain peoples auras and feel their energy that they radiate from within themselves ever since I was a little girl. I actually feel physically ill around people who exude negative energy...


Much Peace and Awareness
 
Aegle said:
Open your eyes and you will see... I have always been able to see certain peoples auras and feel their energy that they radiate from within themselves ever since I was a little girl. I actually feel physically ill around people who exude negative energy...
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I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN!!!


and shoe, great follow up post
 
Thanks Capt_Bones :)

Aegel: I haven't but after reading a little about it I decided to buy it. I have no bhuddist texts as such,
appart from the tao te ching, which isn't particularly bhuddist.
 
Aegle said:
Open your eyes and you will see... I have always been able to see certain peoples auras and feel their energy that they radiate from within themselves ever since I was a little girl. I actually feel physically ill around people who exude negative energy...
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Same here; being around such negativity is essentially bathing in dis-ease. I have found it very difficult to cope with certain situations where I've been stuck around such negative energy, and find that being around it affects my own "vibe" as well. I suppose that those who are very advanced in meditation and other practices hold such a strong positive charge that they're able to overcome the negativity. Aegle, do you know the book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle? He discusses similar concepts in great detail, it's very practical too.
 
Lysergify

Nope i haven't come across The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. Thank you for bringing it to my attention ill definitely look it up my friend as it sounds really fascinating.


Much Peace and Happiness
 
The Book of the dead certainly is a bizzare and sombre read. Its All about how to liberate the spirit through death, and about the various entities one will encounter in the bardo.
 
shoe said:
The Book of the dead certainly is a bizzare and sombre read. Its All about how to liberate the spirit through death, and about the various entities one will encounter in the bardo.
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Also the Psychedelic Experience by Leary combines the Tibetan book of the dead and psychedelic experiences
 
Shoe

The Tibetan Book of The Dead is a fascinating and eye opening read, I'm really glad that you checked it out my friend. Another one of my favorites is The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep By Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche, its a beautiful and precious book that I would highly recommend reading.


Much Peace and Compassion
 
burnt said:
Chakra's aren't real.
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You seem to have some fixed notion about what the chakras is, making them false in your eyes. I assure you they are not, because they do not fit into the framework I think you put them in. If you had understood the chakras, you wouldn't say the same. Seriously burnt, don't judge something you know little about (I am assuming you have not read too much about them, or tried to understand what they really are, what they represent, and how people use them).

Before I embarked out on a quest to master advanced mathematics I looked in the books I were supposed to plunge through and I didnt understand SHIT of what was in there. But I didnt judge it, nor did I think it false. And as I got deeper into the game I understood it, and now I apply it. The same goes for the chakras. At first I didnt understand them (I still dont to any great extent to be honest), but I don't like to judge things I don't understand. I knew there were lots of literature about these things, a lot of practices and a lot of people devoted to them. So I have been reading a little bit and talking with a few folks, and I have understood that these things are very valid and practical for the people involved with them - they give results for these folks. They may not fit into my world view or be of any great interest to me, but it doesnt make it less valid. It just means that they are not for me.

But then again, it all depends on what you define as real, and what kind of real, and within what framework and worldview. I am also under the notion that chakras do not represent ACTUAL physical entities, but are rather symbolic. Does that make it false?
 
burnt said:
Chakra's aren't real.
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Aren't you suffocating in that small box you seem to be stuck in.
A lot of people have more evolved senses than the general public and can see these vortexes. There might not be any scientific instruments that can "see" the chakras but that does NOT mean they don't exist.

And what's real and what's not?
 
You can see frequencies spin, it's called cymatics.

You can also see the meridians of the CNS.

And you can also see neurons; You think with your body.

If you don't understand, then I'm sorry. I do. It's a wonderful system.
 
DMTripper said:
burnt said:
Chakra's aren't real.
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Aren't you suffocating in that small box you seem to be stuck in.
A lot of people have more evolved senses than the general public and can see these vortexes. There might not be any scientific instruments that can "see" the chakras but that does NOT mean they don't exist.

And what's real and what's not?
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ohai, harrow. btw: I would like to point out that 80% of people claim to be 'of above average intelligence' ...

MooshyPeaches said:
Nice post shoe. Ah if only we could communicate with our origin of thought instead of these subjective symbols.
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Thanks mooshy peaches. I beleive it'll be a reality at some point, but staying on topic for now...
 
If chakras had ANY impact on human health or physiology they would be by default observable. They have never been observed. Such kinds of energy fields have never been observed. Sure humans have real energy fields but this is because we are made of matter and energy its nothing weird and none of it suggests chakras.

Chakras are myths made up by cultures who didn't know dick about human physiology.

People who believe in them don't know shit about human physiology either. Sorry call me arrogant but your the ones who are drowning in your own ignorance and bullshit superstitions.

I'm not being nice this time..



"People have more evolved senses?" What the fuck seriously? You people really are wacked out its a shame really because all the potential these substances have are squandered on stupid spiritual bullshit.

This is the last time I will say this for the next couple weeks:

People who believe in chakras are stupid.
 
burnt: This is the fixed notion I thought you had. Why do you keep thinking of them as actual physical entities? You fail to see the whole concept as anything else than something that is supposed to be actual measurable physical entities. But they are obviously not. If they were they would have been found, as you've said. But how about moving a little past all that, and think of them within a philosophical and psychological framework? They suddenly start making more sense if you can try to understand them in this way. You shouldn't take shit so literally, because alot of eastern philosophy and spirituality is not literal but merely symbolic and metaphorical. You seem to fail in seeing this.

It is a great insult to people and a great generalization to say that everyone who believes in chakras are stupid. Seriously, I feel I am getting angry as I am writing this to you. I am greatly disappointed over your ability to show such a narrow mind and shortness of thought. Chakras mean different things to different people, there are alot of different perspectives on these things and different contexts in which they are applied. Yes, there is alot of bullshit but no, that doesn't mean EVERYTHING that has to do with chakras is wrong. There is bullshit science, does that mean all of science is wrong? Of course not.

I don't use chakras, I don't believe in chakras perse, they don't really fit into my worldview. However, I do not simply neglect the whole phenomenon based on some fixed notion of what I think they are and what I think they represent. Sometimes people are involved with things that I don't understand. Try to be a bit humble mr burns =)
 
burnt said:
People who believe in chakras are stupid.
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OK I'm not going to get into the chakras debate, but your numerous recent disrespectful posts have me also wondering if the Nexus would be better without you for a bit. This isn't my call but I'm not the first to wonder about this, see the "Mesoamerican Civilizations" thread. Can you keep to creative, constructive posts? We can go elsewhere for the negativity.
 
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