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Holy Water makes Ayahuasca Perfect Without Fear

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BahiyaSutta

Hi,

I recently discovered an amazing super relaxing medicine that you can make yourself using water, activated charcoal, and a "hydrogen water bottle".

If the bottle is plastic, you only need a pinch of activated charcoal. Most hydrogen bottles are glass which doesn't have enough carbon to make this work so in that case use a lot more activated charcoal (maybe 1tbsp or more).

Within 10-15 seconds of ionizing this mix you can open the bottle and sniff the gas or even touch the water (or drink) to feel the calming effect. Some people notice it very easily if they are attuned a bit to their parasympathetic nervous system. Others notice other things. For example it can clear out clogged sinuses within seconds or minutes.

But the real amazing synergy is with DMT ayahuasca (most people just call it ayahuasca but i usually prefer NMT ayahuasca since DMT aya is too challenging for me at higher doses normally). When i have used the Holy Water within some hours prior to the DMT aya, even at ego death level there's no fear. It's quite incredibly relaxing as my mind dissolves. I have never found any other substance like this. It also makes me more sensitive to lower doses of DMT, but less sensitive to harmalas.

I don't know what i am producing in this hydrogen/ozone bottle with the activated charcoal but one hypothesis is fullerenes. I would love to have some chemist here test this!

Much love ❤️
 
For me it is better the original way. Everyone is looking for the easier way. To truly heal we should be doing it the true way and feeling what it brings to us.
 
If you find oral DMT too intense/challenging, try sipping on it for 10 minutes, like either have a cup of Mimosa or Acacia tea, or some pure DMT dissolved into some liquid, and sip it for 10 minutes, like space out the sips and drink it all within 10 minutes. Doing so will make it kick in much smoother/gentler, and will reduce the come up intensity. It's how i prefer to journey vs having the DMT kick in all at once and be really intense lol. And if you want extra smoothness you can make a tea from 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf and drink that either alongside the Harmalas or alongside the DMT and it'll also help to reduce bodyload/intensity and contribute to a smoother come up. Then DMT is actually pretty gentle with little to no intensity.
 
Sabnock1990 said:
If you find oral DMT too intense/challenging, try sipping on it for 10 minutes, like either have a cup of Mimosa or Acacia tea, or some pure DMT dissolved into some liquid, and sip it for 10 minutes, like space out the sips and drink it all within 10 minutes. Doing so will make it kick in much smoother/gentler, and will reduce the come up intensity. It's how i prefer to journey vs having the DMT kick in all at once and be really intense lol. And if you want extra smoothness you can make a tea from 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf and drink that either alongside the Harmalas or alongside the DMT and it'll also help to reduce bodyload/intensity and contribute to a smoother come up. Then DMT is actually pretty gentle with little to no intensity.
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I have tried these but have you tried with the holy water?...
 
When I was a small child I was brought into a church by my Mother who had a priest stick his thumb in 'holy water' and press it into the center of my forehead.
I'm sure it did absolutely nothing for me.
If anything, religion hampered my peace in life, and has been an infinite pain in the a$$ for me.
Later in life the ayahuasca worked for me and found it's place and merit in my life.
I would never try to deny some perceived quality something has for you though.
I just can't use the city tap water in the making of my ayahuasca, as that has been ruined.
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stinkyfish said:
For me it is better the original way. Everyone is looking for the easier way. To truly heal we should be doing it the true way and feeling what it brings to us.
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There are many different groups in the Amazon who use Aya. Which one was the first? Doubt we'll ever know. Since we may never know, the "true" way is lost to the sands of time, making your statement a bit dogmatic.

It seems more apt that each individual find what works for them, whether that be something more modern or something more ancient. Everyone is different and by virtue of these differences, different things will work differently for different people.

One love
 
To be most specific, all the ayahuasca I made when I lived on the farm in ME was made with underground spring water on tap via a pumped well, which was great quality water akin to Poland Springs.

And all the ayahuasca I've made since moving back to MA has been made with reverse osmosis water because we got some really crappy city tap water we do not consume.

As far as the 'true way' I think all that matters most is that we do not poison ourselves and our intentions are right with it. But I really respect the origins of the brew from indigenous people as the instinctual science I believe it to be.
 
Voidmatrix said:
There are many different groups in the Amazon who use Aya. Which one was the first? Doubt we'll ever know. Since we may never know, the "true" way is lost to the sands of time, making your statement a bit dogmatic.

It seems more apt that each individual find what works for them, whether that be something more modern or something more ancient. Everyone is different and by virtue of these differences, different things will work differently for different people.

One love
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Taking the ease off is cheating. Do it the true way, what it does is what it does. The more difficult the path, the better the outcome. The true way is an maio and the plant and dealing with what comes no matter what. Everyone is different only because of the choices we choose. When we are told an easier way, most will take it. Masses take the easy way. Champions go through he'll to find heaven and those are the ones who get it.
 
BahiyaSutta said:
You tried it with the holy water and you didn't like the infinite peace?
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No need for me. The difficult way is best. It heals you more and shows you. Jump in the ocean or jump in a whirlpool. What petrifies one is the true way and ones shadow is doing that because it wants to petrify one so it makes one take the easy way and keep him/her shadow. For me the more difficult the better the outcome.
 
stinkyfish said:
Taking the ease off is cheating. Do it the true way, what it does is what it does. The more difficult the path, the better the outcome. The true way is an maio and the plant and dealing with what comes no matter what. Everyone is different only because of the choices we choose. When we are told an easier way, most will take it. Masses take the easy way. Champions go through he'll to find heaven and those are the ones who get it.
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Sounds like the psychedelics aren't taking for you and you're not really learning from them. This is arrogant. It's also egotistical. It's not a competition...

Perhaps, focus on yourself, stop with the unnecessary comparisons, and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.

And there's a lot more that goes into us all being different than just the choices we make, such as the environments we inherit. Your statement is a bit naive.

One love
 
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I'm probably missing something here.
Active coal, holy water?
Is this some brand name of some kind of product?

Where I live holy water is tap water that a priest might or might not have said a prayer over that specific day.
 
The way I found to be the most gentle way to take ayahuasca is taking it normal but building a tolerance or becoming accustomed to the harmalas over a period of a few days/weeks. I have made caapi tea a daily practice however taking caapi/harmalas a few days in a row before your aya dose your body seems to get use to the 'load' and gets to be zero issues with stomach via runs or vomiting. Also not taking excessive harmalas helps. As for the DMT I just take it at once after 15 min at once. Caapi makes it come on 'slowly' but haven't experimented much different methods. Taking an hour after for me reduces the experience too much. A DMT salt is better than DMT freebase orally since it doesn't cause the burning when taken.

If you are religious I'd say holy water a mantra or other practice will remove your fear. Also taking it more frequently at lower doses helps a lot. I don't see how activated charcoal will help but I'm not too informed on this. Do you think taking a charcoal pill would be the same result? I'd assume the charcoal would absorb some of the actives and release it a little slower?
 
Voidmatrix said:
Sounds like the psychedelics aren't taking for you and you're not really learning from them. This is arrogant. It's also egotistical. It's not a competition...

Perhaps, focus on yourself, stop with the unnecessary comparisons, and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.

And there's a lot more that goes into us all being different than just the choices we make, such as the environments we inherit. Your statement is a bit naive.

One love
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There is no original way. Just as there is no single "right" religion, or a single right recipe for cooking carbonara. There are many ways, in everything.

Having said that, what seems to me from my experience is that you have to search for some obstacles to overcome. Some sacrifice to do. The simplest and most comfortable way is rarely the best. But this may simply be an interpretation of someone like me who likes to complicate his life. :ROFLMAO:
 
BahiyaSutta said:
I don't know what i am producing in this hydrogen/ozone bottle with the activated charcoal but one hypothesis is fullerenes. I would love to have some chemist here test this!
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Holy water? Hydrogen and ozone? Mixing those two gases could well bring you closer to god with a surprising (and deafening) rapidity, I suppose…
 
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