"Homegrow DMT" for the protection of nature

[horusandswim]

:!: Before I registered, I already knew how to extract our "Spirit Molecule" from MHRB powder.

What I did not know was how all the harvesting of the root bark damages the ecosystems.
The pictures of the broken Mimosas have shown me that it is not right, which causes by the increased world-wide trade.

In addition, in some countries, processed bark is banned, monitored or simply barely available.
How can we enjoy our experience if we know what damage we are causing with it?

The idea of having at least one small independent source of supply would therefore have advantages for someone and nature.
That's why I think "homegrow DMT plant" TEKs should be just as important in the future as DMT extraction TEKs.

Seeing how lovingly some stoner care about their plants and how well it works for them, I think that there is a lasting and comfortable solution for us as well.

I'm just thinking, which is suitable for smaller apartments and not much more than a bit of artificial light and heat.
Psychotria viridis sounds good, Acacia acuminata narrow phyllode variety was recommended to me.

If there is interest, that would be for me a great first topic here in the nexus. :thumb_up:

 

[dreamer042]

This is exactly what we encourage here! :thumb_up:

I'd say don't overlook the mushrooms, they are incredibly easy to grow and fully capable of delivering tryptamine ecstasis.

 

[skoobysnax]

I have seen photos of mimosa grown on mounds to enable lateral root harvest keeping them living and producing. They are fairly hardy whereas ACRB may kill a tree more easily. In Hawaii they are considered invasive but they are still a living thing worthy of respect. I am interest in the desmanthus spp. They are prolific and hardy and can grow in the north.

 

[some one]

Phalaris

phalaris experts please shine your light - Coalition for Entheogenic Liberty - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[horusandswim]

Phalaris could be interesting for some, for a smaller apartment it will not be the choice.
For people who have a large garden, it would be an option, but why not have a few smaller acacia or a P. viridis in the greenhouse? 8)

Then there would be the Gramine thing.
In acacia or mimosa hostilis, somebody does not need to worry about it.
For people who like to make extractions with alcohol or IPA to get all the alkaloid goodies, Phalaris is also out of the question.

Somewhere I have read that Egyptian Phalaris species probably contain no gramine.
Does anyone know anything else about it?

This thread should be for all "Homegrower", but for me only smaller plants that are suitable for a smaller apartment. :d

Hope that maybe we can join in here for everyone, the right plant that will possibly provide a lifelong supply.
Plants are also very decorative. :thumb_up:

 

[horusandswim]

I have seen photos of mimosa grown on mounds to enable lateral root harvest keeping them living and producing. They are fairly hardy whereas ACRB may kill a tree more easily. In Hawaii they are considered invasive but they are still a living thing worthy of respect. I am interest in the desmanthus spp. They are prolific and hardy and can grow in the north.

Love shroomys really. :thumb_up: :thumb_up:
Have already been able to make a few very interesting experiences.
Also one or two funny and one difficult.
On a mushroom trip, I've been thinking hard about how much humans are destroying the environment. That was damn exhausting and grueling.

Also had 2 grow kits, but I'm not a good mushroom grower.
Amanita muscaria would still be very interesting.

Synthetic substances can not really be called someone's name.
No need for new research substances whose risk potential is unexplored.
It has grown the right plant for everything ...
Partially known and used for hundreds of years.

And many probably agree that most designer drugs can not compete with Salvia or DMT. The stuff is sacred.

 

[Hyper Turtle]

I have little mimosas. So far, they look very cute (just a month old, 10-15cm tall).

Because I live in similar climate as you do (if your location is true), they'll need to live their life in pots and be inside for winter. I'll see how fast they grow, and how easy or hard they are to keep to a manageable size.

I've read that it takes about three years for them to develop significant alkaloids. I intend to test that (increase number by taking cuttings when possible, sacrifice one every now and then for measuring root bark potency).

Another question will be how cuttings behave. It depends on whether the trigger for alkaloid production is age or volume. Basically, a cutting is the same age as the original plant, so a cutting from a 3yo plant might potentially grow potent root bark from the start.

If age is the trigger, one could just have a single mimosa cutting per year, have it on the balcony during summer, unearth it in late autumn, make cuttings for next year from the green parts and extract from the roots. Then in spring, keep the strongest one and give away the rest. If that works, it shouldn't take very much space.

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Phalaris is great also because it just grows outside in many places in Europe. When you spot a possible Phalaris population, why not wait until it gets mowed and take a bag full for a test extraction? If asked, just say it's for your rabbit

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I've had many friends with failed mushroom grow kits. You never know how they were treated, especially for shipping.

There is a shop in Innsbruck (A) that sells and ships sterile marmalade glasses with ready-made PFtek substrate (rice flour and vermiculite) and spore syringes. Lift the stickers, stick the needle in, drip some drops towards the glass wall, put back the stickers. One syringe can easily inoculate 5 glasses (heat-sterilize needle between glasses!). Let sit dark and warm until it's all white and starts shrinking a bit. Take it out of the glass, soak it in tap water overnight, then roll it in dry vermiculite like a Schnitzel in bread crumbs. Place it in a box with wet perlite in the bottom and airation holes all around, at or slightly below room temp with some ambient light. Mist daily, wait for a few weeks, et voilà. I've never had under 80% success rate with this method.

Just to make your mouth water, here's a PFtek cake about halfway through digestion

 

[OG Old Guy]

Love shroomys really. :thumb_up: :thumb_up:
Have already been able to make a few very interesting experiences.
Also one or two funny and one difficult.
On a mushroom trip, I've been thinking hard about how much humans are destroying the environment. That was damn exhausting and grueling.
...How can we enjoy our experience if we know what damage we are causing with it?...



Also had 2 grow kits, but I'm not a good mushroom grower.


And many probably agree that most designer drugs can not compete with Salvia or DMT. The stuff is sacred.

Greetings!

Your thread title caught my attention, and I hope you don't mind if I add my 2 cents here.

Most of the 'botanical' tree harvesting I've seen is on small scale commercial plantations that are harvested so as to allow for regrowth (and continued future harvests to insure an ongoing income for the farmers.) Plus, in all honesty- they country I've seen it harvested in has FAR worse ecological disasters and pollution problems than someone harvesting some tree roots.
On top of that, some of our favorite ingredients are now super popular in cosmetics pushed by celebtards that themselves pose far greater dangers to society.

Thirdly, The earth has survived 5 major extinction events so far and seems to be doing OK. It did suck if you were a dinosaur, but hey, they had a good run for 10 million years. so I say relax and enjoy your time here. :thumb_up:

All that being said, I agree with Dreamer's post above. Mushrooms are probably the quickest route to enlightenment available today. Approx 2 month turnaround from start to finish.

PF jars are a GREAT place to start. The secret is to have good sterile technique.:thumb_up:
1. Make and use a simple SAB (Still Air Box)from a clear storage tote. You do NOT need a 'glove box'.

2. You can buy the premade jars if you must, but it's easy and far cheaper to learn to do it yourself. I've also seen videos of people pulling 9-10 grams dried fruits from a single PF jar with only a top layer of moist coco coir. And the brown rice flour is definitely a legit medium to produce strong fruits. 8)

3. Another key to successful shroom growing is to practice before you start trying it with a $40 spore syringe. Make up some practice jars and get used to using the tools and moving your hands slowly and efficiently. It sounds easy to shoot 1 or2 ML of spore solution per jar- but it's not easy your 1st couple of times. Again, there are good videos available on the popular video website.

4. In the "Sustainable plant and seed suppliers" forum, you'll see people discussing sporeworks.com. They are one of the best suppliers in the world. The "Golden Teacher" variety grown on BRF will definitely meet your needs. :thumb_up:

Best of luck friend, and I'm happy to help in any way I can as far as questions or suggestions.

 

[Hyper Turtle]

I totally agree, it is easy and far more cost efficient to prepare the jars yourself (and the syringes after successful harvest).
Especially if you already have a pressure cooker that takes more than a jar or two

I only proposed buying because I thought that after two failed attempts, eliminating most risk of insufficient sterility early on could be worth it, one time.

The shop I was talking about, gluckspilze.com/Mushroom-cultivation-supplies, has a bit limited psychedelic mushrooms (I only find cubensis, 16 different strains) but all kinds of supplies and many edible and medicinal mushrooms in various propagatable forms. Very reasonable prices for the spores - for €35.5 you get 5 syringes. In their shop in Innsbruck, you can even peek into their production.
They'd probably deserve to be listed as a sustainable supplier.

EDIT: Yippie, I was just accepted as a full member :d So I'll go ahead and add them to the suppliers as my first privileged action.

 

[some one]

Congrats Homo Trypens!

I agree sustainable growth is the way of the future. It could be possible by crowdfunding sustainable mimosa /acasia plantations. Small forests being planted and every trees cut down for harvest replanted. If only the transport of material wasn't illegal than this would be fairly easy to setup. Heck, it could even be done as an investment, why not.

 

[Hyper Turtle]

So far on my web searches, I've come across two methods for harvesting root bark.

One is killing the tree, harvesting all roots. I've read the wood is resistant to rot, too, and the leaves are good food for some animals. Even if replanting a tree, this doesn't feel great to me, especially with trees in the ground as opposed to pots.

The other one is digging for a few thick roots, separating them from the tree, leaving others intact so that it will recover. This allows for annual or biannual harvest without killing the tree.

I am wondering if root bark can heal after removing only patches that don't span all around the root. That would be amazing! I think it is also quite likely. If so, healing a wound is probably quicker than growing and aging new roots.

For people with little space, it might open up the possibility of having just one tree in medium to large pot (planting bags may be more comfy for harvest) cut to 1-1.5m, till the end of times, harvesting a bit every year. Kind of bonsai style:

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The first and foremost is the amount of root area you give it. If you keep it in a little pot, you'll have a little tree.
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For self-sufficiency, how much root bark does one need? 100g a year? 500g a year? Sounds achievable to me.

I will use one of mine to try, and report in a few years

I have a few Chacruna seeds too, looking forward to plant them, but I'm not ready yet - they're said to be a bit more difficult. But once they grow, I'll be spreading leaf cuttings among my friends like crazy Even to those who think it's just a beautiful exotic plant.

PS. some one I love your avatar! I've described what I see when changa starts as hieroglyphs, but they actually look much more like your avatar. Did you draw it?

 

[OneIsEros]

Good idea. Although just so you know, acacia confusa is an invasive species in Hawaii

 

[horusandswim]

The idea of simply harvesting, drying and processing leaves or above-ground parts of plants sounds more interesting to indoor plants than digging out the roots.

In a small garden a lot is already possible.
In a small apartment but it should not be bigger than a room palm.

Sooner or later, it will be time to test how far you can get with a seed-grown chacruna, a light bulb and a bit of care.
If that works, it is always nice to pick the leaves until the desired amount for extraction is reached.
No dirt, the plant is doing well and everything is nearby.

Never had a very high dose of mushrooms (5g +).
But everything anyone knows is not to compare with DMT.

As far as is known, DMT is the only one that allows "contact" with these Entitys.
Shrooms can lead to extreme closed eye visuals, but do not let you see any "aliens". ...(?)