How DMT effects your heart.....

[Godzillas]

I have a heart condition and was curious to how profoundly DMT effects the heart and you personally.

Im in great shape heavy aerobic and anaerobic is done 5 days a week.

Iv done many other substances the are classified as stimulants and been fine, was addicted to some for quite a while...

just curious to how much it effects ur heart

thanks

 

[nen888]

..i don't have refs handy, but basically the answer is not much..
Strassman and others found that even during administration of fairly large doses, heart rate and blood pressure remained fairly stable..
pulse rate is sometimes slightly slowed..there were are no common severe adverse physiological effects at up to 100mg..
(5methoxy-dmt, on the other hand, may increase heart rate.. )

the general safety of DMT in published medical data was probably one of the reasons Dr. Strassman gained FDA approval for human trials after none had been done for so long...

 

[۩]

Your heart will feel weird, though!

I don't have any heart issues that I am aware of. I've done Iboga and that is potentially fatal to people with heart issues. so...

Sometimes it feels like my heart has stopped beating. Or it's beating in someones hands as if its being massaged. It's a very odd effect! To me I find that DMT is slightly vasoconstrictive, but nowhere near as intense as LSD, so there is a slight increase in blood pressure because of this (at least in my space ship)

The trick is to relax and just know you're going to be OK, even if it feels like your heart is exploding at light speed

 

[Godzillas]

I thought the study showed increased heart rate? and 1 girl had like a heart attack?

was just curious to personal experiences with its effect...

I appreciate ur input. Ill try and google my sourece

 

[Godzillas]

also thanks for the quick responses

 

[۩]

Breathing also feels really bizarre on DMT but you do it anyway ;]

In my body there is a direct correlation between breath rate and heart rate so try breathing deep and slow before ingesting DMT, continuing to do so consciously during the experience.

 

[nen888]

..i should have added that it doesn't have adverse physical effects, even when the subject is convinced they are dying...

 

[Godzillas]

good to know...

so i take i shouldnt start with a breakthrough dose .05? hahaha maybe .025-.035? I ordered the GvG and think i know how to use it properly from reading....

Im just looking for a 1st time to have a profound experience, and I like to keep my eye open but i dont have to, I do like OEV's alot lol but who doesnt

 

[۩]

yeah I'd say 25mg then work your way up to an eventual 50 and see where you land as far as being content...you can start even lower if you want, as 25mg in a gvg can be pretty strong. some people feel the need to go deep [the explorer] while others are happy wading along the blissful tides of a low dose hyperspace. You will find what works best for you.

 

[Godzillas]

im a big fan of being slain by the gods

Mckenna - When not sure....double the dose lol....

I have 40+ Mushrooms trips with some heoric doeses and 10+ salvia trips but from my reading and understanding the differnce in the substances is like the difference between a ladder and the universe

 

[oden]

Being slain by the gods!! lol...then put on the beach shorts and jump in!! you got the lungs it seems.. if worried take a baby asprin.. should do the trick.. but i believe you will be alrighr...love the Gusto!! peace and good luck with what you seek..Oden

 

[Godzillas]

i was just under the impression the heart effects were like sprinting on some amphetamines or something lol...

ill probably start a little light like .025mgs but i want OEV's
well see what happens

also thanks again for the help

 

[tele]

i was just under the impression the heart effects were like sprinting on some amphetamines or something lol...

ill probably start a little light like .025mgs but i want OEV's
well see what happens

also thanks again for the help

Do you mean 0.025mg? Or 25mg?

Basically if I were you I would start from 5-10mg. And not exceed 25-30mg as more than that is not needed with a proper pipe such as glass vapor genie for any kind of experience(if taken in single inhalation).

Yes DMT can easily raise one's heartrate and raise the blood pressure somewhat, but not by dangerous amount. I would definately use a proper pipe if I were you to make it easy on the lungs, vapor genie is easy and effective for use.

 

[Global]

I have the heart condition vaso vaguel syndrome. At this point in my life, it's not really a big deal, but if my heart starts beating fast, it can be crazy unnerving. Having said that, DMT has never made me feel uncomfortable in regards to my heart. I'm most often unaware that I even have a heart at all on DMT (no pun intended!)

 

[tele]

I'm most often unaware that I even have a heart at all on DMT (no pun intended!)

I know this feeling, something like one's chest(or the whole body) becoming transparent.
At lower doses I can sometimes feel it beating very fast, I'm glad it's rare because it's so fast:lol:

 

[Godzillas]

i meant .025 which is 25 mg's correct?

Tele, your heart beats really fast at low doses?

 

[tele]

i meant .025 which is 25 mg's correct?

Tele, your heart beats really fast at low doses?

25mg is a breakthrough dose if smoked from a proper pipe in single inhalation.

If you are a beginner, start from 10mg and increase by 5mg. This way you will get used to it better, so to speak. If you have a bad smoking pipe then you will need more material for the same effects.

I get rapid heartbeat some times when smoking, but I'm glad it's quite rare.

 

[Godzillas]

is rapid heart rate a common thing?

 

[tele]

is rapid heart rate a common thing?

I don't know if it's for others, but if heartrate is raised slightly I think it's normal and nothing unusual. Just even due to a long drag from the pipe and then holding the vapor for long time in your lungs.
I think R. Strassman in his book recorded peoples heartrates and BP and to some they were elevated. I'm not sure so maybe someone can post on this matter.

 

[Godzillas]

i read that too and cant find it, one girl had a heart attack but like i said i cant find the source atm