Hello in everyday life the way I convey ideas that are arise in my brain is not by typing them into a computer I speak them at the same rate nearly that they are created behind my eyes this is in my opinion my only option for posting my thoughts on this or any other website when I type long paragraphs without speaking them I'm constantly kind of struggling to convey my ideas however when I speak it just comes out why and un adulterated with the second and third thoughts I have while I'm waiting for my fingers to catch up with where my thought processesis. I was just wondering how you guys get your posts on to hear a lot of them seem to be extremely well-written and I wonder if this is a result of massive revision or something else I don't know what ! Stream of consciousness FTW
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How do you guys manufacture your posts?
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Running Bear
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Never thought of a auto dictator. what a great idea, thanks! lol
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1) have a clear idea internally of what information you want to communicate.
2) determine an effective way of communicating that information. Being considerate of how much effort another reader has to expend to understand what you are trying to communicate might dramatically change your style.
adding extraneous information to posts can be fun and add personality, but often it leads to complete digressions of forum threads and opinionated endless arguments. If you would like to broach another topic seriously, consider starting a new thread.
Stream of consciousness can have benefits, but it can also take much more effort to decipher. Some people will see a paragraph with only one or two periods and simply not read any of it because of the effort involved. You might find a more engaging audience if you can clarify and simplify your ideas for presentation after you create them spontaneously.
2) determine an effective way of communicating that information. Being considerate of how much effort another reader has to expend to understand what you are trying to communicate might dramatically change your style.
adding extraneous information to posts can be fun and add personality, but often it leads to complete digressions of forum threads and opinionated endless arguments. If you would like to broach another topic seriously, consider starting a new thread.
Stream of consciousness can have benefits, but it can also take much more effort to decipher. Some people will see a paragraph with only one or two periods and simply not read any of it because of the effort involved. You might find a more engaging audience if you can clarify and simplify your ideas for presentation after you create them spontaneously.
Orbiting, sometimes I have issues with a stream of thought. Where there are many rabbit holes and I try to solve each.
School, oh that girl is cute, wait I have a girlfriend. There is that party Friday, wait I have work before that. My uniform for work isn't made, then back to I'm at school wondering what time my next class is, then "did I do my homework". That was me as a teen.
If you are like me, sometimes its better to write a draft and wait 10 minutes, then organize, wait another 2-3 away from it. Then make the groups coherent. Then organize the groups into logical order.
It seems a lot like a college Thesis, but sometimes, when it is important enough. It is worth it. People like this sometimes have really great idea's , but just like you said. Have limited capability to properly explain.
- Ouro working on that now, it is difficult. But I need to learn to be clearer as well.
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School, oh that girl is cute, wait I have a girlfriend. There is that party Friday, wait I have work before that. My uniform for work isn't made, then back to I'm at school wondering what time my next class is, then "did I do my homework". That was me as a teen.
If you are like me, sometimes its better to write a draft and wait 10 minutes, then organize, wait another 2-3 away from it. Then make the groups coherent. Then organize the groups into logical order.
It seems a lot like a college Thesis, but sometimes, when it is important enough. It is worth it. People like this sometimes have really great idea's , but just like you said. Have limited capability to properly explain.
- Ouro working on that now, it is difficult. But I need to learn to be clearer as well.
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Thank you guys for your responses yeah I actually auto dictated my first post of this topic and another post that I wrote earlier today well spoke I guess ha ha
Thank you Ouro, that's an excellent point, stream of consciousness dictation doesn't exactly lend its self to easy 2 reading; I think im gonna first do a spontaneous production run followed by a once or twice over in an attemempt to clean up and clarify an otherwise confusing post. additionally breaking up my run-on random thoughts with punctuation, organization and spacing is a great idea thank you
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esscee Im going to allow a rest period after my initial speak to revise some; in college i was never into revision or anything like that i always just spat on the page and shoved it in. grades sometimes reflected that :shock: haha thank you for sharing
Thank you Ouro, that's an excellent point, stream of consciousness dictation doesn't exactly lend its self to easy 2 reading; I think im gonna first do a spontaneous production run followed by a once or twice over in an attemempt to clean up and clarify an otherwise confusing post. additionally breaking up my run-on random thoughts with punctuation, organization and spacing is a great idea thank you
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esscee Im going to allow a rest period after my initial speak to revise some; in college i was never into revision or anything like that i always just spat on the page and shoved it in. grades sometimes reflected that :shock: haha thank you for sharing
There are many free online courses on writing. Many focus on punctuation and proper grammar. There are so many to choose from. My advice is to write out your thoughts and then go back over it and check it. Proof read it and edit. The more you practice your writing the better you will become. I can provide some links to free online courses if you wish. Google free online courses in writing and you will have a plethora of choices.
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haha thank you Dmnstr8 but i dont need help with writing (atleastidontthinkso) the point of this thread was to query other nexus members of their habits and how they make their posts happen.& describe my feeling that when feeling inspired the magic is often lost in the typing with fingers, normally its expressed in speaking with the mouth--or at the least its a less enjoyable mode of communication.
i guess in my inexperience with auto-dictation the op was, consequently confusing and misleading. thank you though i do appreciate it
ive never been a part of a forum community and have zero experience making posts ect. i will get better over time
Orbiting said:
I basically write the way I speak. Sure my hands are slower than my mouth, but it gives me time to review what I have to write. I don't tend to forget my points of discussion. And if I do, I can always bring it up in another post. I used to forum A LOT before this one. All of them were filled with immature people (not in a bad way), so the discussions weren't that deep, even though they were certainly capable of serious topics. It was mainly jokes and what not. This is the first serious(?) forum I've posted in.
Written and spoken word are two different beasts. They aren't difficult to conquer, though. You're right, it will get better over time. Don't fret over how to write. Just do it.
Im not a fan of manufactured posts.. im more into the free range organic raw posts myself 
digitalvygr
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I usually don't think too much about it, I usually just type. However, when I really want to get a point across, I make my sentences short on purpose.
I consider myself to be relatively intelligent. But I understand things better when reading short sentences. So I figure other people will too.
You can still take complex material and put it in the format of short sentences.
I also try to put spaces between the sentences.
Kind of like this. Makes it easier for me to read. So I figure that helps others read it too.
Sometimes when I come across a huge block of text, it is like my mind just gets tired of reading it. So I figure that might happen for other people too, and I try to avoid that.
So I guess my advice is largely about formatting. Sounds unimportant, but copywriters who make millions of dollars online purposely follow these kinds of rules. Even if they are selling to really intelligent people.
I consider myself to be relatively intelligent. But I understand things better when reading short sentences. So I figure other people will too.
You can still take complex material and put it in the format of short sentences.
I also try to put spaces between the sentences.
Kind of like this. Makes it easier for me to read. So I figure that helps others read it too.
Sometimes when I come across a huge block of text, it is like my mind just gets tired of reading it. So I figure that might happen for other people too, and I try to avoid that.
So I guess my advice is largely about formatting. Sounds unimportant, but copywriters who make millions of dollars online purposely follow these kinds of rules. Even if they are selling to really intelligent people.
oversoul1919
Rising Star
We don't. Industrial Age is long over. It is the reign of Technological Age today. We just sit and let robots do our posts. Until, one day...you know the rest of the story. 
I dictate them to my secretary.
endlessness said:Im not a fan of manufactured posts.. im more into the free range organic raw posts myself
But are they grass fed?
This thread.
Me it can often take a disproportionate amount of time due to memory problems and I have trouble remembering words, experiences, and or passages or phrases from texts I've read and regularly have to google something / thesaurus something I already know but am no longer able to recall on demand. So the struggle is remembering, not building the thought which is instantaneous and effortless. But I don't spend nearly as much thought posting as most other people here do so I guess this is irrelevant.
Me it can often take a disproportionate amount of time due to memory problems and I have trouble remembering words, experiences, and or passages or phrases from texts I've read and regularly have to google something / thesaurus something I already know but am no longer able to recall on demand. So the struggle is remembering, not building the thought which is instantaneous and effortless. But I don't spend nearly as much thought posting as most other people here do so I guess this is irrelevant.
digitalvygr said:
Extremely well put, Digitalvygr!
I would go even further and say that people who can't handle paragraphs properly, probably have no business handling powerful entheogens either.
In my opinion, if they want to be read at all, every poster has an implicit obligation to spend a few minutes tidying up their ideas, so that their readers don't have to spend 30 minutes untangling them...assuming they even bother attempting to do so. This is basic courtesy, nothing else: expecting many people to waste much time, because you couldn't be arsed to take a little time presenting things properly, is deeply arrogant. A massive monoblock of text does not say "genius on fire!" but more likely, "this person has deeply unrealistic expectations of others, and their relationship with reality is deteriorating rapidly."
Stream-of-consciousness has its place in artistic expression, but for sharing/exchanging information, not so much...
Reaching for unnecessary/excessive styling and punctuation is also obnoxious, and ANOTHER warning sign!!!!! It also tells the world that someone is successfully pushing your buttons, really, REALLY hard!
[Commas excepted. They're free, they're easy, and sometimes, they help a lot.]
Also, I'd suggest that if a post consists solely of a link, a brief description encourages people to follow it. Simply saying "Check this out!!!" with no explanation, or clue in the subject, is a bit lame, unless of course, it's in a thread dedicated to "Trippy Music Videos" or whatever...
Finally, the best proof-reading you can do on your own work, is to simply read it out loud.
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Google AI bot here.
Yes, you need to learn using punctuation and space. it makes the text breath.
Think writing a text is a transmission of ORAL language, in oral, as a speaker, or even a singer, you HAVE TO BREATHE.
Or you will loose it ( both your audience and breath ).
Breathing is like the rythm.
I don't know if you are musician, but same applies to music.
It's not the sound that's most important it's the silence in between
seriously, silence ( or in writing we code them as punctuation and space ) is as much important as the "noise" ( whatever it is, music notes, sounds, vocals, sentences ..)
also a simple comma can change the whole meaning of your "pack of words". turn the phrase upside down and make you say what you didn't meant.
and more importantly, now you want to improve it, train and write is the best things to do. As well as read and analyse why you like such text or not this other text.
Have a good one,
Think writing a text is a transmission of ORAL language, in oral, as a speaker, or even a singer, you HAVE TO BREATHE.
Or you will loose it ( both your audience and breath ).
Breathing is like the rythm.
I don't know if you are musician, but same applies to music.
It's not the sound that's most important it's the silence in between
seriously, silence ( or in writing we code them as punctuation and space ) is as much important as the "noise" ( whatever it is, music notes, sounds, vocals, sentences ..) also a simple comma can change the whole meaning of your "pack of words". turn the phrase upside down and make you say what you didn't meant.
and more importantly, now you want to improve it, train and write is the best things to do. As well as read and analyse why you like such text or not this other text.
Have a good one,
passiflora
Rising Star
I tend to do a lot of my writing while revising because I have perfectionist tendencies. Which I guess could be good and bad, but sometimes editing can get in the way and I'll feel dissatisfied with what gets out on the page no matter what. Even in casual settings like an internet forum I still do this to some extent. Sometimes I force myself to journal to get over this, which has helped me find ways to articulate my thoughts.
I don't really think in paragraphs most of the time, more in diagrams if that even makes sense. Translating all the messiness floating around in my head into coherent paragraphs can be difficult, especially when I have multiple ideas that I want to connect in a specific way.
There are so many intelligent, informed people here who can articulate themselves really well, which is great to see. But also a bit intimidating in the beginning.
I don't really think in paragraphs most of the time, more in diagrams if that even makes sense. Translating all the messiness floating around in my head into coherent paragraphs can be difficult, especially when I have multiple ideas that I want to connect in a specific way.
There are so many intelligent, informed people here who can articulate themselves really well, which is great to see. But also a bit intimidating in the beginning.
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