omega-scar
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I just drank 50 ml (equivalent to 50 gr of caapi) and don't feel very much. It's been 30 minutes now. Should I drink another 50 ? Or wait ?
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How long till the effects kick in ?
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omega-scar
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drank another 25 ml...
+ 1 hour - still almost nothing
+ 1 hour - still almost nothing
omega-scar
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+30 min - drank another 25 ml caapi & ~30ml chacruna totalling 100 mg caapi & 30 mg chacruna
50g should def be enough unless you have some real impotent vine. It wont kill you to drink 50 more..but I wold lay down either way. To really get into the visionary states with harmalas you have to lay down and let yourself fall into a trance.
i've had quite a lot of vine that was very weak even at 50g
also, try eating a piece of fruit or something small after dosing to get digestion flowing..it can really help it kick in
and what jamie said regarding visions is entirely true. you can take a good dose of ayahuasca and see basically nothing sometimes untill you lay down in silent darkness and let go into it
also, try eating a piece of fruit or something small after dosing to get digestion flowing..it can really help it kick in
and what jamie said regarding visions is entirely true. you can take a good dose of ayahuasca and see basically nothing sometimes untill you lay down in silent darkness and let go into it
Aya for me comes on really fast like 15-30 minutes in. Normally predose with alittle dry rue extract though for safe measure.
omega-scar
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Why did my Aya session last night not work guys ?
I prepared everything so carefully, and did everything the best I could.
The plants (yellow caapi & chacruna leaves) were from Maya Ethnobotanicals. I made a 3x3 hour boil on low simmer for the caapi. Used distilled water & 1 Tbls white vinegar per liter. Boiled the chacruna 1h:30min also on low fire and stored them in glass jars separately. I carefully filtered the boiled liquid not using a cotton tshirt as recommended in the "all about aya" post but put some cotton int othe funnel and poured throu it directly into the bottles.
Now, except for the fact that the effects were extremley mellow, I can DEFINETELY say that there was an effect. But...still the question remains... how is it possible to have the most mellow and barely noticable effects fromm 100 gr caapi and ~30 chacruna ?
I did not purge whatsoever. I felt at one time, about 2 hours after drinking everythin a vague nausea, and feeling to vomit but it was not that intense to actually do it. Also, this morning I drank a cup of green tea after waking up and then I again felt like vomiting, but did not do so. I am now back to normal...
I also experienced NO visuals whatsoever...just some thought/thinking abnormalities like fragmented thougts and unsual thought associations... and a little lightheadedness...
Maybe the plants were not very good, or I did something wrong with the preparation... I have no clue...
I still have about 110 ml caapi and about 70 ml chacruna (normally, if i did everything right equiv. to 100 gr caapi and 70 gr chacruna). I am going to drink all of this the next time.
And in one hit, not like yesterday in 25 ml increments on the course of 1 and a half hour...
Maybe better luck next time.
Any comments welcome.
I prepared everything so carefully, and did everything the best I could.
The plants (yellow caapi & chacruna leaves) were from Maya Ethnobotanicals. I made a 3x3 hour boil on low simmer for the caapi. Used distilled water & 1 Tbls white vinegar per liter. Boiled the chacruna 1h:30min also on low fire and stored them in glass jars separately. I carefully filtered the boiled liquid not using a cotton tshirt as recommended in the "all about aya" post but put some cotton int othe funnel and poured throu it directly into the bottles.
Now, except for the fact that the effects were extremley mellow, I can DEFINETELY say that there was an effect. But...still the question remains... how is it possible to have the most mellow and barely noticable effects fromm 100 gr caapi and ~30 chacruna ?
I did not purge whatsoever. I felt at one time, about 2 hours after drinking everythin a vague nausea, and feeling to vomit but it was not that intense to actually do it. Also, this morning I drank a cup of green tea after waking up and then I again felt like vomiting, but did not do so. I am now back to normal...
I also experienced NO visuals whatsoever...just some thought/thinking abnormalities like fragmented thougts and unsual thought associations... and a little lightheadedness...
Maybe the plants were not very good, or I did something wrong with the preparation... I have no clue...
I still have about 110 ml caapi and about 70 ml chacruna (normally, if i did everything right equiv. to 100 gr caapi and 70 gr chacruna). I am going to drink all of this the next time.
And in one hit, not like yesterday in 25 ml increments on the course of 1 and a half hour...
Maybe better luck next time.
Any comments welcome.
fairbanks
"Our entire much-praised technological progress, a
What color and consistency was the liquid?
The only thing I can think of is next time let the plant material soak in water/vinegar in the fridge overnight before brewing. Also, a longer brew time may be needed. It never made sense to me that westerners do a 9 hour brew of dry plant material. While in the amazon they do 24+ hr brews of fresh material. How do we expect to get anywhere close to a traditional brew using that logic? These dry online-order materials are not even close to the potency of what's used in the amazon, so why do we under compensate and rush the prep? Fear? Anxiety? Our instant gratification culture? Same reason we prefer coke over coca leaves and heroin over opium sap? Same reason many prefer to rely on the "ayahuasca analogs"?
The only thing I can think of is next time let the plant material soak in water/vinegar in the fridge overnight before brewing. Also, a longer brew time may be needed. It never made sense to me that westerners do a 9 hour brew of dry plant material. While in the amazon they do 24+ hr brews of fresh material. How do we expect to get anywhere close to a traditional brew using that logic? These dry online-order materials are not even close to the potency of what's used in the amazon, so why do we under compensate and rush the prep? Fear? Anxiety? Our instant gratification culture? Same reason we prefer coke over coca leaves and heroin over opium sap? Same reason many prefer to rely on the "ayahuasca analogs"?
fairbanks
"Our entire much-praised technological progress, a
Before someone fires back at me that fresh material needs longer brew to extract the alkaloids. Couldn't the same be applied to dry material that has a lower content?
It seems like 3 washes of 8 hours each would be the better than 3x3..?
It seems like 3 washes of 8 hours each would be the better than 3x3..?
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