What are people’s opinions on the legitimacy of hypnosis?
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We see that different people are suggestible to different degrees, and many people are probably high enough on that spectrum that something like hypnosis could work (and has in the past). But how do you even define hypnosis?
A common thing for classical musicians is to have a "pre-performance ritual", where they wholeheartedly believe that doing some arbitrary thing (like praying over a handful of salt, wrapping it in a tissue and then putting it in their pocket) before a concert helps them focus and relieves their anxiety—and because they believe it works, it works. But you have to be able to convince yourself that something like that would have any effect in order for it to... have any effect. Hence why I had to get over my nerves the old-fashioned way.
A common thing for classical musicians is to have a "pre-performance ritual", where they wholeheartedly believe that doing some arbitrary thing (like praying over a handful of salt, wrapping it in a tissue and then putting it in their pocket) before a concert helps them focus and relieves their anxiety—and because they believe it works, it works. But you have to be able to convince yourself that something like that would have any effect in order for it to... have any effect. Hence why I had to get over my nerves the old-fashioned way.
I agree that one has to believe it will work and allow it to work for it to work. I always played hypnosis off as a joke, or the “hypnotized” were in on it. But as I’m learning to navigate my consciousness, I feel more open to the concept. I heard this ad on the radio about a hypnosis seminar to help people loose weight today. It got me thinking on the subject.
lsrvnt
Rising Star
Metta-Morpheus said:
Its Incredibly real and is just another name for the awareness of the tancelike and magical capabilities of language that many cultures have created however its the only form that western society has used or even vaguely believed in. It can work on anyone no matter what ppl say you just have to be really really good. crazy shit is possible in the realm of visualization, memory recall or loss, both positive and negative hallucination, timeshifting and many more impossibilities. look up darron brown for the more pop culture stunt magic type hypnosis or if ur really curious read the book transfigurations. I gotta old leather bound copy shit is a straight wizards spell book.
FranLover
Long live the world in peace, prosperity, and free
Yes hypnosis is real and at its core is based on the simple understanding of consciousness and its shifts into different states.
In this playlist hypnotherapist Dan Jones explains common questions about hypnosis and hypnotherapy.
[YOUTUBE]
And this is is one of his many hypnosis videos for falling asleep. Lay down in darkness and practice breathing and discover the various meanings of breathing correctly all day and the various simple techniques of breath and go into it...hypnosis works for the same reasons Mariylin Monroe or Rudolph Valentino worked on screen; the power of suggestion on the unconscious. German expressionism also excerts its powerful effect through suggestion.
[YOUTUBE]
And as many of us have experienced hypnosis or hypnotic 'visuals' are a staple of DMT; black and white swirls, black and white tile floors, swirling galactic wormholes. Many parts of the DMT experience are based on mesmerization. We like a steady flow. We yearn to be mesmerized, because in that state we can totally relax...we enter into the field of emptiness; absolute bliss. For relaxation we need concentration on one fixed point. Complete relaxation is what we yearn for, its our little home inside ourselves. Yoga and meditation are forms of mastering one-pointedness and proper concentration so that we return to that pure state.
In this playlist hypnotherapist Dan Jones explains common questions about hypnosis and hypnotherapy.
[YOUTUBE]
And this is is one of his many hypnosis videos for falling asleep. Lay down in darkness and practice breathing and discover the various meanings of breathing correctly all day and the various simple techniques of breath and go into it...hypnosis works for the same reasons Mariylin Monroe or Rudolph Valentino worked on screen; the power of suggestion on the unconscious. German expressionism also excerts its powerful effect through suggestion.
[YOUTUBE]
And as many of us have experienced hypnosis or hypnotic 'visuals' are a staple of DMT; black and white swirls, black and white tile floors, swirling galactic wormholes. Many parts of the DMT experience are based on mesmerization. We like a steady flow. We yearn to be mesmerized, because in that state we can totally relax...we enter into the field of emptiness; absolute bliss. For relaxation we need concentration on one fixed point. Complete relaxation is what we yearn for, its our little home inside ourselves. Yoga and meditation are forms of mastering one-pointedness and proper concentration so that we return to that pure state.
xss27
Rising Star
Hypnosis absolutely works. It's become somewhat of a gimmick in modern culture and downplayed, because really the implications are a bit terrifying to people.. that we are not as in control of ourselves as we'd like to believe we are. That we are highly programmable organic units.
At a low level all advertising is a form of hypnosis. At a medium level you can induce states that make people perceive things that aren't there and do all sorts of stuff. At a high level you don't even need the 'hands together' or other tricks to put people into that state, you can literally point at them and force them under - this hypnosis at a distance isn't widely known and is likely related to 'transmission' in myticism.
You can self-hypnotise yourself too. Two personal examples:
- A particular situational anxiety I developed. I remember the instant I allowed myself to fall into the self-hypnosis, I can still picture the sidewalk in my mind, and also why I allowed it to happen.
- Waking up seconds before my alarm clock is due to go off in the morning. Handy at first but became particularly irritating after awhile!
Neither of those examples required me to sit down, breath, or do anything gimmicky. I can't describe it except to say it is a subjectively felt state and I know when I'm in it. I have a weird relationship with my brain/mind
- I can trigger ASMR, stop a sneeze right at the peak, hiccups, all with intention alone. All that is related to hypnosis in the sense that our minds are far more influential, and able to be influenced, than we know.
At a low level all advertising is a form of hypnosis. At a medium level you can induce states that make people perceive things that aren't there and do all sorts of stuff. At a high level you don't even need the 'hands together' or other tricks to put people into that state, you can literally point at them and force them under - this hypnosis at a distance isn't widely known and is likely related to 'transmission' in myticism.
You can self-hypnotise yourself too. Two personal examples:
- A particular situational anxiety I developed. I remember the instant I allowed myself to fall into the self-hypnosis, I can still picture the sidewalk in my mind, and also why I allowed it to happen.
- Waking up seconds before my alarm clock is due to go off in the morning. Handy at first but became particularly irritating after awhile!
Neither of those examples required me to sit down, breath, or do anything gimmicky. I can't describe it except to say it is a subjectively felt state and I know when I'm in it. I have a weird relationship with my brain/mind
- I can trigger ASMR, stop a sneeze right at the peak, hiccups, all with intention alone. All that is related to hypnosis in the sense that our minds are far more influential, and able to be influenced, than we know.
KannaRas
Rising Star
Metta-Morpheus said:
Well
Well
Morpeth
DRMTravel survived memories shows me
That Cell phones have nothing to do with Hypnosis
After a strange Every one out the Bus ritual
I managed to sleep move to the lower or higher dimensions where I
Can meet all the Passengers
I wonder Why I don't remember to kick the shit out of them
For speaking so much while we're here pretending they are I
I don't know what just cause ? What ?! What fukin reason would they have ?!
Any way
So I'm walk around this that this
And then I pick up a mobile phone
Starngly first time I encounter A mobile phone while sleeping
And i get slapped consciously a few Body's ? Away till I wake up here
Then tell me ,,
What level of dimension are we in while here ?
Or is the Nexus and internet available on all of them ?
Or is this mobile phones are some kind of
LSD like , into the self trip journey of soul exploration ?
And I'm not talking about A new way to watch Movies or Subconscious answers music makin internet to mind psychic query
I'm talkin litterrly
Physical dimensions
The Soul
And Aliens Human Casino
And is it revesable ?
Or its existence unrelated to eachother just brought together for?
Any way
I think Killer is unneeded for this one or are we again talking one thinking other
And I can't notice what's thought myself?
Can you stop it?
And how do I stop micro chip telepathy server requests Conversations ?
Why do the server even takes requests?
A server? What a disturbing image to drop on it
I guess video games are bad for me
And can you ? Can you just make is as be what comes as when
Why the visualisation BS and Shiny blue - purple flying dots of requests to main hub ?
Fix the flow and delay would you?
And why is there a main hub?
And what would happen if it shut down?
Or is there even a main hub ?
Or are we just shooting flying lights and dots at people around ?
Don't go there rako felad
Alright Halas
So did someone just lived an entire day and is going now to sleep as I turn this screen off?
Is Time really unexisting ?
Do Bus people travel freely between dimensions with previous memory's ?
Is any one ever gonna be Real bout this and not act like China surveillance states police?
Or should we live in pretenda coca Hella one night's krella
You know the fall back to that issue is one of the dumbest I've seen
What were we on about before this?
Look back and read ?
You think I could understand any of the nonsense I'm typing
Halas
Halas
No no
Crazy dreams ,,,
Yo,,
SynKyd
Rising Star
Similarly, learning to lucid sleep is retraining your brain (hypnotizing) yourself to stay asleep and control the awareness in that state.
I was skeptical, but saw some kids at a high school after prom all get completely lost in a guys thing, on stage, in front of the entire school. I even talked to one of them afterwards, it was very real and they had no control of their actions. Knowing the kids involved and the small school, there was no way they would have all been in on it together. Too many different groups and cliques, their monkey brains were completely shut off.
I was skeptical, but saw some kids at a high school after prom all get completely lost in a guys thing, on stage, in front of the entire school. I even talked to one of them afterwards, it was very real and they had no control of their actions. Knowing the kids involved and the small school, there was no way they would have all been in on it together. Too many different groups and cliques, their monkey brains were completely shut off.
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