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I am reading ALIEN INFORMATION THEORY by Andrew Gallimore

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I am reading ALIEN INFORMATION THEORY by Andrew Gallimore and would enjoy discussing it with anyone who has read it. I have watched most of the videos on YouTube in which Andrew Gallimore is interviewed. I have had one DMT experience, and from what I can assess from knowledgeable and expert sources, it was a Level 5 experience. I have never known anyone with whom I could integrate that experience. It happened in the early 1990s, yet it still haunts and fascinates me.
 
Happy to talk....have read the book and have had 5 DMTx experiences.
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In the US or UK?

Also, I'm somewhat reading the book. I love his caveat at the beginning about how it's all just his ideas and not to take it too seriously, though he was serious enough to write a book!
I'm a bit distracted by other reading and projects at the moment, but if timely in my time reading it I'd love to discuss.

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dmtpsychonaut12 said:
Happy to talk....have read the book and have had 5 DMTx experiences.
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that's incredible! i can't say i'm not a tiny bit jealous lol

i've had somewhere in the ballpark of 50-60ish vaporized dmt experiences since learning to perform my own extractions around 6-mos or so ago. it's been as paradigm shifting as one would imagine yet i'm no more convinced of what's actually happening during a bt experience now than i was after the first one.. i've watched pretty much all there is out there in the way of interviews, podcasts, etc. with mr. gallimore and also the members of the first dmtx experiments and it all just fascinates the hell out of me. my instinct would be that having that extended time there to poke around and get my bearings would be extremely helpful for trying to suss out the level of "realness" or at least practical coherence there is in a bt experience.

if you don't mind, since this is a rare opportunity to ask directly someone w/ first hand experience..

2 questions.

if you had to say one way or the other after your extended stays in hyperspace, whether you feel we are going somewhere that is actually "there" or just succumbing to a (however strange) "brain on drugs" chemical biological interaction, which would you reckon?

while in your experiences did you make an attempt to seek out information or answers from the space or in conversations with entities that you could bring back or use to prove in some way that these were "real interactions". and is this an objective set by the study as well? if my question isn't worded clearly enough, an example would be something like asking an entity a complicated question that you don't know the answer to, that you could then verify the answer when you return to base consciousness.




in response to the topic of the thread, i haven't read alien information theory yet but i do plan to. i did just preorder andrew's newest book "death by astonishment" though and am looking forward to getting my hands on it when it releases shortly.
 
Voidmatrix said:
In the US or UK?

Also, I'm somewhat reading the book. I love his caveat at the beginning about how it's all just his ideas and not to take it too seriously, though he was serious enough to write a book!
I'm a bit distracted by other reading and projects at the moment, but if timely in my time reading it I'd love to discuss.

One love
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In the US
 
IceKoldpp said:
if you had to say one way or the other after your extended stays in hyperspace, whether you feel we are going somewhere that is actually "there" or just succumbing to a (however strange) "brain on drugs" chemical biological interaction, which would you reckon?

while in your experiences did you make an attempt to seek out information or answers from the space or in conversations with entities that you could bring back or use to prove in some way that these were "real interactions". and is this an objective set by the study as well? if my question isn't worded clearly enough, an example would be something like asking an entity a complicated question that you don't know the answer to, that you could then verify the answer when you return to base consciousness.
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Your first question is really great and I think difficult to quantitatively answer. Subjectively and visually the experience feels like your in another place. However I dont feel that one has actually traveled there, as in the extended state there is a duel awareness unlike a smoked session, meaning present in both here and there at once....really cool. It seems, as Dr Gallimore puts it, we're not breaking through into the DMT space, however DMT is breaking into us. So is the place real? sure, however we have not traveled there, however we are able to tune into that reality by consuming DMT. However even after 5 experiences, and hours in the space......cant say that I have the answers, only insights that I have gained over the experiences that I have had.

To you 2nd question.....I did make contact yes......even some telepathic experiences, but other than basic interactions and "feelings" I can't say I was able to bring any messages or answers to prove they were real. All my interactions were loving, supportive, healing and playful. Would like to spend more time in the space, which I will, to take a shot at those questions more in depth. Think they take away at this is its big work, big experience, and takes a lot of time to even take a shot at those large questions.

Please feel free to ask away....
 
dmtpsychonaut12 said:
Happy to talk....have read the book and have had 5 DMTx experiences.
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Were you a subject in one of the IV infusion studies or was it an independent effort? Could you expand on the nuts and bolts of setting up and dosing and how does it compare with Vaporhuasca for example -if you're familiar with it.
 
I'm confident about the protocol used (i have my reasons for said confidence).

One of the main differences between infusion and vaporhuasca is there's no augmentation or modulation by way of harmalas. They haven't been doing that yet.

The dosing is often by bodyweight, but generally a bolus of 5-10mg followed by an infusion chosen by cues from the journeyer once they are in the space.

While in they can be leveled up, deeper into the space, or lower into shallower waters if things become hard to bear.

There's a large team for one person journeying. There's the guide, the guides support guide, the medicine preparer, the nurse (sometimes two), the scribe, and sometimes a "sentinel" (a person to guard the space).

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Voidmatrix said:
I'm confident about the protocol used (i have my reasons for said confidence).

One of the main differences between infusion and vaporhuasca is there's no augmentation or modulation by way of harmalas. They haven't been doing that yet.

The dosing is often by bodyweight, but generally a bolus of 5-10mg followed by an infusion chosen by cues from the journeyer once they are in the space.

While in they can be leveled up, deeper into the space, or lower into shallower waters if things become hard to bear.

There's a large team for one person journeying. There's the guide, the guides support guide, the medicine preparer, the nurse (sometimes two), the scribe, and sometimes a "sentinel" (a person to guard the space).

One love
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Yes I was wondering about the experiential differences between DMTx and Vaporhuasca.

This sounds like it was an independent effort yes? Incredibly exciting if so.
 
Voidmatrix said:
What do you mean by independent effort?

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Outside of an academic setting/formal scientific study. I assumed it was only a matter of time before some enterprising psychonauts ran with it and wondered why it hadn't already happened.

I know that Andrew Gallimore is involved with a DMTx retreat in St Martin or thereabouts but are not up and running with clients just yet to my knowledge.
 
Dimitriologist said:
Outside of an academic setting/formal scientific study. I assumed it was only a matter of time before some enterprising psychonauts ran with it and wondered why it hadn't already happened.

I know that Andrew Gallimore is involved with a DMTx retreat in St Martin or thereabouts but are not up and running with clients just yet to my knowledge.
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Voidmatrix is correct. This is an independent team doing work with the Dmtx space and I was fortunate enough to be part of this. As far as I know Gallimores team through noonautics is not yet up and running to offer the extended state yet.
 
dmtpsychonaut12 said:
Voidmatrix is correct. This is an independent team doing work with the Dmtx space and I was fortunate enough to be part of this. As far as I know Gallimores team through noonautics is not yet up and running to offer the extended state yet.
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Interesting. Would this be Medicinal Mindfulness out of Colorado?

I was thinking of the eleuismind retreat in St Vincent.
 
Voidmatrix said:
I'm confident about the protocol used (i have my reasons for said confidence).

One of the main differences between infusion and vaporhuasca is there's no augmentation or modulation by way of harmalas. They haven't been doing that yet.

The dosing is often by bodyweight, but generally a bolus of 5-10mg followed by an infusion chosen by cues from the journeyer once they are in the space.

While in they can be leveled up, deeper into the space, or lower into shallower waters if things become hard to bear.

There's a large team for one person journeying. There's the guide, the guides support guide, the medicine preparer, the nurse (sometimes two), the scribe, and sometimes a "sentinel" (a person to guard the space).

One love
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Haven't broken through yet but I'm curious if they are out of body how can they give cues?
 
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