I experienced the Salvia Blending and Pulling.

[protostar]

Sorry DB for taking what you said personally, I now realize that you did not mean me specifically, hope we're cool again.
And thank you Legarto for clarifying that point, I see now what DB was intending to say.
DB, if you don't mind me asking you, do you know the correct way of working with salvia divinorum for enlightenment purposes - spiritual healing and development?
I have used salvia extensively as well, since 2002, on and off.
I had some very profound and great experiences, as well as horrible ones, trips that literally sent me into the depths of the hell regions of the cosmos, which I found so traumatizing that I feel permanently scarred from it still.
But this plant still intrigues me and I would love to work with it again, I just want to learn as much as I can from it.
Thanks both of you for your help. :thumb_up:

 

[Doc Buxin]

...do you know the correct way of working with salvia divinorum for enlightenment purposes - spiritual healing and development?

I wish that I had an answer for you protostar, I really do....

From my experience, entheogens in general provoke more and more questions and very few, if any answers. I would have to say that, for me, perhaps the most important lessons I have learned are

1) We create our own heaven or hell on a moment to moment basis, constructed from all the little, seemingly insignificant decisions that we make every day, be they conscious or unconscious decisions.

2) Always clean your room, keep your house in order and always keep a daily routine. This will create sanity, literally. And the more sane we are, the more we're able to spread beauty and love around to others, which I feel is light years more important than any kind of enlightenment.

3) As far as enlightenment goes, psychedelics don't create it. Believe me, I've tried. If psychedelics created enlightenment, I'd be one of the most enlightened beings on the planet right now and I am not. Like anything else in life, psychedelics are tools that can help or hinder you on your path through life, akin to a good chainsaw or gun. One must be very careful when using these tools, and some people just don't have the self-responsibility and self-discipline to handle them at all.

I don't know what else to say right now, but if I think of anything else constructive to add later, I will.

Peace

 

[Legarto Rey]

protostar, your last question segues to the fascinating topic of entheogen use as a catalyst for "enlightenment". I've found the linked website rather informative. Study it a bit if so inclined.

The Entheogen Theory of Religion and Ego Death

Remembering that the term "enlightenment", as classically used references a fairly definable and rationally perceivable, set of concepts and worldview MENTAL MODEL. In contrast to the post-1960s, "New Age" concept of enlightenment that is vague, poorly defined, difficult to "achieve" and predicated on living a "good" life during non-mystic state consciousness existence. This is NOT to belittle that goal, only to indicate that during the long swath of human antiquity(since end of last ice age @13,000y), we have inherited a well described, archetypally rich "theory" of enlightenment that represents an alternative worldview, transcendent v egoic, that was and still can be reliably accessed via use of entheogens.

Study this website for a few weeks. We'll start another thread, maybe. I'd add that this archetypal mental model is NOT about access to TRUTH that ONLY the initiated possess. Merely an alternative conceptual reference frame for relating to and understanding the deep mystery of life, time/space and ultimate controllership of what we generally experience as who we are...the ego. Interestingly, introduction to and repeated exposure to this reference frame has been intimately associated with the use of entheogens!

Peace