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I have an idea about why we don’t remember where we come from

Maddd_Maxxx

Maddd_Maxxx

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TW: planning suicide

I have always loved the idea of reincarnation, and I very much believe in it. In high school, I felt like I was going nowhere. I wanted to end my life because I thought I could start somewhere else that is far away from earth and humanity. I was tired of schooling, being young, and dealing with people. I planned my death, but a wonderful therapist and some Lexapro got me out of my depression.

Now, I still believe in reincarnation, but DMT has furthered my belief in something much larger than us and a circle of life.

I haven’t yet been to hyperspace, but I always read reports that describe how people don’t want to come back after seeing how beautiful and happy it is there. I know that if in high school I knew for sure that DMT entities and that wonderful world was real, I would have gone through with my death. Why would I be here when there exists?

Do we maybe forget as a way to “lock us in” to being here? If we knew that our death would bring us somewhere better and we remembered out power and infiniteness, I feel like the average person would have a very hard time staying here. Spiritual people understand the lessons that bloom here, but those who are unfamiliar with the purpose of this life would want to return.

Do we have to forget so we have to look for the beauty of this lifetime? I also feel like the human brain doesn’t physically have the capacity nor the memory storage to hold onto everything that is over there. We have to forget to protect our human lives.
 
A peculiar trait about the dmt experience is how familiar it feels; as if you've been there before and forgot all about it. I've never been depressed enough to plan my death but more-so apathetic. My view is that if hyperspace is our natural state or realm of existence, it's perhaps not a curse to be separated from it. Existence feels timeless on DMT, so I figure why not explore this life's lessons and experiences while I'm here, since there's no rush and that place will always be there.

I had a CEV where I peeked my eyes open in another place. I may have been opening buddha's eyes, as I noticed I was sitting under a tree by the brief pattern of shadows that danced in front of me when I peeked. It spurred the thought that this life I'm living is just a dream that I'm having while meditating under this tree in my true existence. It was tempting to 'get up', but I tend to want to keep dreaming, and made a vow to do so.

But yea I think it wouldn't make sense for our brains to be aware of that constantly, we wouldn't be able to stay in character unless we forget. And yet, without a brain, I don't think we could appreciate hyperspace in the same way. Although the space is instantly familiar, I don't retrieve past lives or memories as a machine elf. For all we know, it's a uniquely human perspective. Maybe that's why the entire thing seems to be astounded by your return. It only took a few billion years for that moment to be possible.

That's my only motivation for having kids. There's a long chain of events that led to everyone's existence on Earth. So many forms of life had to survive and reproduce in unimaginable conditions to get to this point. It would be a shame if it ended with me.
 
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i think that hyperspace and this universe are one and the same and one couldn't exist without the other
i don't think suicide would make a person be reborn in hyperspace because in most cases when a person commits suicide they feel disconnected from everything else and that's the opposite of how hyperspace is

when you go to hyperspace and come back you don't want to kill yourself, not because you want to keep learning here etc, but because you realize that you already are in hyperspace, even right now
my advice is to find that connection in this life before even considering suicide

unsolved issues and negative mental states are the ones that lead to rebirth in earthly planes in most traditions
 
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Maddd_Maxxx said:
Do we have to forget so we have to look for the beauty of this lifetime? I also feel like the human brain doesn’t physically have the capacity nor the memory storage to hold onto everything that is over there. We have to forget to protect our human lives.
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I like a candle metaphor from sutras. They say that reincarnation is like using one candle to light another.
Would it be the same flame or different? :unsure:

Thinking that our brain doesn't have capacity for memories from past lives is another thought, though.
Basically, we don't know. There are lots of written accounts of sages who remember past lives.
Science has made some good progress on this front too. I Origins is a good sci-fi movie on this theme.

I seriously considered suicide a few times in my life.
After working with plants, it became apparent that it is not a way out.
Most likely, you return to this plane to work with similar stuff once again.
At least I believe so wholeheartedly, and it helps me stay alive ;)

“Only Jesus died the real death” — Neem Karoli Baba
 
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My view is that if hyperspace is our natural state or realm of existence, it's perhaps not a curse to be separated from it. Existence feels timeless on DMT, so I figure why not explore this life's lessons and experiences while I'm here, since there's no rush and that place will always be there.
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I agree! I don’t find it a curse, but I feel like forgetting is essential to learning from this iteration of our selves. If we knew everything we knew from beforehand, we would have to reason to learn faith or have the urge to explore things like psychedelics. There seems to be a beauty and lesson in learning again.
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It only took a few billion years for that moment to be possible.
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I love this ❤️ My depression taught me that all life is so valuable. Life is so complicated, and this becomes so clear when learning about the nitty gritty of biology. Our bodies are such amazing and infinite machines and there is no purpose in harming them. There might be rough times in this world, but the body deserves all the respect you can give it.
 
CosmicRiver said:
unsolved issues and negative mental states are the ones that lead to rebirth in earthly planes in most traditions
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This belief honestly saved me during my depression. I might want to go “back”, but there is no promise of where I would return to. I also concluded that I would probably come back here because I did not learn everything I needed to. Earth and humanity has so much to teach us about the soul and living in harmony and peace with oneself even if the world is on fire. Now that I am older, I wouldn’t give that up for the world. There is something so powerful about learning that my freedom is an internal state. I can have my rights stripped, my money taken, but as long as I can look to the stars and the earth and know something greater is at play, I am happy. Psychedelics have saved my life again and again. Plus, it also makes me want to explore. Earth is so complicated, and so is the human brain and experience. Why would I want to give that up?
 
northape said:
Thinking that our brain doesn't have capacity for memories from past lives is another thought, though.
Basically, we don't know. There are lots of written accounts of sages who remember past lives.
Science has made some good progress on this front too. I Origins is a good sci-fi movie on this theme.
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I was thinking more or less about past lives as DMT entities, if that is even possible. I just read a book called The Cosmic Serpent, and he theorizes that DMT is a travel through DNA. Even a cross section of DNA looks like hyperspace. However, he only took ayahuasca once, and I know there are countless things that happen on DMT besides traveling through cells. I do believe remembering past lives regarding being people totally makes sense! It is an experience our brains are designed to handle. However, being a higher dimensional being…I am not sure about. I know many folks here are able to accept, but I know that even I feel my mind bending when I think about what DMT means. Thinking about the details of a curved time space boggles my brain. I know folks like monks can understand it with more ease, but I don’t know about the average human’s capacity. I feel like we would all be more peaceful if we have brains designed to remember DMT (if is is something in our past), but maybe we are hear to learn how to live peacefully without feeling it’s peace or living in linear time.
northape said:
I seriously considered suicide a few times in my life.
After working with plants, it became apparent that it is not a way out.
Most likely, you return to this plane to work with similar stuff once again.
At least I believe so wholeheartedly, and it helps me stay alive ;)
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This right here! I elaborated on this thought in another reply as well. But this is such an adventure that is impossible to let go. There is such a richness in being here as a little human learning about the vast capacity of existence. I feel like my soul wanted to start again, enjoying the rollercoaster of comprehending God, Time, and the Universe. It is amazing!
 
I'm going to respond just to the surface level content if that is okay.

The way to STAY in hyperspace (if one dares) is multiple doses of ayahuasca/pharmahuasca. Just ensure full inhibition is in place and keep consuming DMT or DMT laden plants. What I mean here is take the first dose and the trip comes in waves. As the waves and intensity die back, dose again. The first re-dose would just be DMT/DMT plant. The MAOI will last many hours but the DMT will be shorter lived. If you have been tripping for 8 hours and want to keep going, re-dose the MAOI.

The way to REMEMBER DMT trips is to train oneself to do just that and to be willing to sacrifice a bit of the pleasure of the comedown for the sake of memory consolidation.

I go IN with a strong intention to surrender, learn and remember. When the trance breaks, even though I'm still very intoxicated, the room is broken up into rainbow bubbles, etc., I begin repeating to myself (sometimes speaking aloud) what happened during the trip. I do this multiple times and fill in details as they occur to me. This technique is similar to one used to recall dreams.

The moment I can control my body, I sit up and start writing at least an outline of a report.

Then I work on this report in the ensuring hours and days (without additional DMT dosing) as the memories recur. I actively try to think about the trip.

I have had various degrees of success with this technique, but overall, I would say it is quite effective.
 
This reminds me of the movie 'The Discovery'. It's a great movie, check it out if you have not seen it.

I'll keep this light on a heavy topic.

It's ok to forget. Maybe the amnesiac 'source' or 'the all' or 'god' likes to play games, have fun, learn and connect and love and all that life offers. Life can be very beautiful. Even if there is something after death, I would make the best out of what life I have here now. I like the idea that I planned to come into this life enable to evolve my higher self or soul in ways that I will never understand. The mystery of the universe is pretty amazing and I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
Maddd_Maxxx said:
I might want to go “back”, but there is no promise of where I would return to
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just a quick thing about this: it is really possible to go back to that state while remaining on Earth with meditation, even if it's something that doesn't happen often and it's unexpected
 
I agree. It becomes so hard to justify leaving now that I've seen... more?

I've had intense experiences in my sobriety from these substances too, not just getting oneshot by the cosmos. I've had lots to think about since touching the molecule. Much better for me to have more questions than "hard answers" about what life is. Allows for my whole life to have different answers based on what is going on at any given time. Your purpose is lived, not thought about.

Time is a great teacher.
 


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