I have to say, I'm blown away

[red_lego_spaceman]

I had my first breakthrough experience last night. The experience left me completely floored and in awe. I'm embarrassed at everything I've posted before. It was the most intense experience of my life. I'd love to give a description, but the best I can do is this:

The mundane details- 20mg smoked at about 3am, after having gotten fairly stoned. I had tried 15mg sober about 5 hours earlier, and almost nothing happened. I couldn't sleep, had some cannabis, read a bit, then got inspired to explore hyperspace.

I had no idea it could be that intense. Whole new dimensions being created and destroyed around me, by entities of inconceivable complexity. My home, space, and time were just thoughts among these. It seemed that they could just dissolve and be forgotten at any moment.

My ego remained basically intact, even as all concepts were rearranged and lost meaning. I have been thinking about starting a journal, but at the time, I thought "What the hell could I possibly write down?". I just kept thinking oh my god oh wow holy shit in various permutations. Then I started thinking 'fear, fear fear'. Just the word. It wouldn't stop, but I didn't actually feel afraid.

When I thought I was back and opened my eyes, there was a spaceship floating over the bed watching me. I wasn't sure if I should be concerned about this or not. It eventually resolved itself into the light on the ceiling.

I definitely need time to integrate this. A couple thoughts:

I had heard about the rapid, short-term tolerance to DMT, but it seems from what I've read and from last night that with multiple trips on one night, the second one will be more intense than the first.

Pot seems to potentiate it a bit, but makes recollection/integration difficult. Shortly after, the experience was mostly a blur.

One thing which seems constant in both breakthrough and non breakthrough experiences is the concept of space "folding" or moving. The concept of dimensionality and recursion, and the strange irony that no matter how many levels you go up or down or sideways, you're always "here". Like there's really only one dimension, "mind", which creates and holds onto temporal and spatial dimensions as persistent ideas.

That's all I got. Thanks for reading :d

 

[Verruckter]

awesome!! I hope i am able to recollect and journal my first breakthrough as you have! The most i have gotten so far off of any dmt trip, i used chonga, was the entire world around me turning into a 2 dimensional cartoon drawing so to speak, my friends, the house, everything around me seemed as though it were drawn on a tablet of paper... and that was pretty much it. I didn't get anything from the first time i used it, except for giggles... I cant wait for my first breakthrough!!!!

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

Congratulations red_lego_spaceman, and welcome to the club!

For something that is truly beyond words... you do a decent job of conveying the jist and feel of it.

Keeping a journal is not a bad idea at all. Much fun has been had with trying to voice record during a journey as well. Unfortunately, no matter what you do... the fullness of the experience can never be captured for posterity. Even the mind boggling intensity that is remembered is only a fragment of the experience. When you get back to hyperspace, only then can you actually recall what had really happened the last time you were there.

At least that's how it seems to most people who've been down this road.

All the best...
HF

 

[Bill Cipher]

Very nice write up.

It only gets weirder as you go...

 

[nen888]

The concept of dimensionality and recursion, and the strange irony that no matter how many levels you go up or down or sideways, you're always "here". Like there's really only one dimension, "mind", which creates and holds onto temporal and spatial dimensions as persistent ideas.

..great description..
ahh..the spice at work..thanks for the sharing..

 

[PrimateSphinx]

A very nice trip report if I do say so myself. I noticed you are from Omicron Persei 8 as well. Far out. All hail the glorious Lrrr!

 

[red_lego_spaceman]

Thanks for the supportive words, everyone! And you PrimateSphinx, puny human.

Next time I think I want to look in a mirror and launch while gazing into my own eyes. On a lower dose.

 

[Purges]

As Mr. Fool said - Welcome to the club man 8) There is nothing quite like the first time you fully bust trough the veil... NOTHING. :d

I had no idea it could be that intense. Whole new dimensions being created and destroyed around me, by entities of inconceivable complexity. My home, space, and time were just thoughts among these. It seemed that they could just dissolve and be forgotten at any moment.

I don't want to scare you, but it can be even MORE intense than what you experienced last night! Try 25-30mg next time :shock: My first real breakthrough left me wondering if it was a good idea to keep messing with something that insanely intense. Of course I came to the conclusion that yes, yes it was

'fear, fear fear'. Just the word. It wouldn't stop, but I didn't actually feel afraid.

I get this sort of 'ego chatter' sometimes if I haven't walloped my ego too hard. I think it is my ego trying to dissuade me from doin it again / going further as it doesn't like being swept by the wayside.

When I thought I was back and opened my eyes, there was a spaceship floating over the bed watching me. I wasn't sure if I should be concerned about this or not. It eventually resolved itself into the light on the ceiling.

I often get this sort of multicolored ectoplasm in my room when I come down from a heavy experience, like a sea of spirit goo surrounding me, it is very pleasant to watch and interact with and I am always sad when it subsides no space ships yet though

I definitely need time to integrate this. A couple thoughts:

I had heard about the rapid, short-term tolerance to DMT, but it seems from what I've read and from last night that with multiple trips on one night, the second one will be more intense than the first.

Good man, intergrating these sorts of things is VERY important, I think just repeatedly visiting and ignoring the message of the journey is disrespectful and will lead you into trouble further down the line... And yes, DMT can build in your system if smoalked too close together - this, I think is what resulted in one of the most terrifying experiences of my life:

The man who flew too close to the sun

Pot seems to potentiate it a bit, but makes recollection/integration difficult. Shortly after, the experience was mostly a blur.

I find this too, many don't, but only as long as I don't smoke any weed for an hour or two before blast off. If the weed is fresh in my system it seems to diminish / cloud the effects, but residual stoned-ness seems to help me go further.

One thing which seems constant in both breakthrough and non breakthrough experiences is the concept of space "folding" or moving. The concept of dimensionality and recursion, and the strange irony that no matter how many levels you go up or down or sideways, you're always "here". Like there's really only one dimension, "mind", which creates and holds onto temporal and spatial dimensions as persistent ideas.

Interesting analogy, no doubt future experiences will alter this view, I am constantly called to re-evaluate!

 

[onethousandk]

One thing which seems constant in both breakthrough and non breakthrough experiences is the concept of space "folding" or moving. The concept of dimensionality and recursion, and the strange irony that no matter how many levels you go up or down or sideways, you're always "here".

I'm liking this description.

 

[darkunft]

One thing which seems constant in both breakthrough and non breakthrough experiences is the concept of space "folding" or moving.

in my first few low dose experiences i have had a similar feeling, like vibrating or building up, falling down of energy or the dimensions energy is channeled through or something like that. man it is hard to describe.

thanks for the read, looking forward to my first "next experience" ;-)

 

[52-dsl]

Spice is soo weird hey? Like someone told me, it's like rolling dice. Never know what ur gonna get. I vaped like 25 mgs last week which is my average dose and had my first breakthrough. Then last night I actually did a little more and just had a really weird experience but did'nt breakthru. Sometimes I have visuals, sometimes I don't.... It actually gave me a slight asthma attack last night. Another reason I'm exploring new routes of administrations.

Good luck with your travels!

 

[motiv311]

Yeah I can relate.....

I just barely finished breaking through myself....

Like you said... dimensions, space, geometric patterns and even time itself seem like they could dissolve the reality (and you!) .. could get lost in all the confusion... its like now . now . now . now NOW! forever.... like a page a reality being torn from THIS very moment ...

I heard noisies like "zim, zing, zane" more sci-fi than anyone could create... my room "rearranges" itself as i'm in hyperspace... spaces shrink and crawl... TVs and stereos become different brand names I don't recognize...

theres an entity now... its not something i'd want to ever fuck with... but i get a protective feeling from it. It has a beak, and huge intelligent-looking eyes... I think its an eagle, but there is something very reptillian about it as well....

the entity handles me... sizes me up... and I'm trying to stare it down like "what are you planning to do?!" its hand comes at me and it looks like some sort of snake.... its going for my face.. my nose.. I'm trying to hold my ground... but suddenly it seizes me, somehow gently.. and its "hand" "cord?" "snake?" goes down both my nostrils and through my whole body...

I was inspected... and then sort of felt like my antenae in my brain had been repaired... I sensed thoughts... 'you have summoned us/me again for what purpose? you seem fine. Didn't you remember from last time? We exposed it last time "

weirdness... and I forget so much each time ... so much

 

[Psy]

My first smoke last night, really tripped out big time. Bust the pipe and pulled strongly a few good hits (maybe too strongly...lol) well....it came on immediately and spirals commenced in the room, everyone left the room and i was anxious for a moment to realise where I was ~ so i moved to the patio and crawled out the door.....alligator crawled along the deck tripping wildly, experiencing all sorts of things at once, not allowing my mind to fly away too far!!

Awesome, will do it again sometime soon.

 

[oden]

Welcome to the club!
its the spice..... sooo how long after did it take you to stop saying "HOLY SHIT" please sir!
may i have another? looks like the space program has another jumper! good luch in all you learn... respect ODEN