I saw 3D TV without the glasses

[anrchy]

So this has my comprehension in a state of lock down. Maybe you guys can help with that.

I did a test run of new stuff. Somewhere around 15mg placed into a meth pipe. Setting was a friends living room dimly lit, 2 friends, large screen LED TV was on Netflix with some sort of options screen with buttons and a screen shot of "fairly odd parents" and a black background. I decided to do this open eyed, no real experience with this, I vaped.

Effects came on quickly, fairly strong body sensations, even for 15mg. My view sharpened extensively then this happened. Everything on the TV became 100% 3d. Exactly like having the glasses on maybe even more so. This is a 3d TV though I'm not sure if that matters. I was able to handle it for about 5 seconds and when full realization set in my mid exploded and I fell into a fit of nearly insane hysterical laughter.

I recollected myself as best I could, but it was almost too much. It was SO 3d I couldn't believe what I was seeing but it was completely isolated to the screen of the TV. Everything else had its own visual clarity and strangeness too it, but the TV was insane. I fell into fits of laughter several times, uncontrollably, tearing at the eyes and the intensity made it difficult to talk.

My friend quickly decided to push play, and as the visual ability slowly started to fade I was still able to see the now moving TV show in full 3d then it collapsed back into 2d.

I'm having a hard time understanding how this works. But it gives more insight as to how most my closed eye visuals have seemed so 3d inside 3d times 3d. Has any one else experienced this? How is this even possible?

 

[universecannon]

"This is a 3d TV though I'm not sure if that matters."

ugh..so you smoked dmt, while watching a tv that is already 3d to begin with, and then were blown away by how it was 3d.....am i missing something here? What is the point of this thread?

 

[anrchy]

It requires special glasses in order to watch 3d. Also, you have to be using "3D movies" to see it in 3d. None if those attributes were present.

The TV was on because I felt that with it off there wasn't enough visual stimulation and left me feeling uncomfortable.

 

[Vodsel]

Precisely for the fact that 3D movies require

1) Stereoscopic quality and broadcasting
2) 3D TV and/or glasses

it is quite clear that your spiced out brain was recreating the 3D factor, since that was simply not present. We're talking about technology here, it's digital information activating a screen and that's all there is to it.

I mean, you might stare to a river and see all the wonderful interactions of water with the matter in the stream in incredible fashion, and you might wonder if the spice is somehow enhancing your visual perception and allowing to see more than you would normally be able to see. Not in the case of a TV broadcast. So in this case your brain/visual cortex was recreating that effect, not giving you any insight.

And for the record, there are 3D TVs that do not require glasses thanks to a prisms technology that delivers the 3D polarization from the screen itself, but they only work when watched from a discrete amount of positions.

 

[anrchy]

Ya it was fairly hard to handle. I was in such disbelief how clear it was. For the record this TV requires the glasses for it.

I'm not exactly sure the technology the TV uses. The glasses are powered, require batteries. They aren't the shutter style I don't believe. It was, as far as I can tell, identical to the same way that it would have looked with the glasses on. Maybe with even more clarity.

I'm trying to understand the mechanics of this. I was under the assumption that human eyes don't have capabilities above their current function. Would it be to bold to say that your eyes would be capable of accomplishing ever more feats? Night vision, thermal vision, zoom ability?

 

[Crazyhorse]

Time to write Sony, Panasonic, Etc. and tell them to scrap their glasses-free 3D development programs. All they need to do is bundle their TV's with a vapor genie and some spice. It'll save them millions in R&D!

 

[spinCycle]

One of the things the mind does is to take an overwhelming amount of information and filter it down into a stream that can be managed well enough to keep you functioning in the physical world.

Another thing it does is just the opposite, take missing data or information and fill in its interpretation of reality to match its expectations. This is how optical illusions work and how the brain copes with the eyes blind spot.

I expect your brain in its enhanced state was well able to fill in your expectations as to what 3D would look like and so it filled in the blanks. I seriously doubt it developed the ability to actually decode the 3D technology itself.

It is said that when the film Nanook of the North was made that still photos of the Inuit (Eskimo) were shown to them they could not read the images. They had not grown up with 2D media like photos and did not have the ability to see their own faces in the grey and black splotches on the paper. We have been raised with this form of media all our lives and so interpret it with no conscious awareness that we are, in fact, filling in a lot of the information that gives meaning to the image.

I do like the idea of 3-DMT movies though. The future of cinema? Sit down, smoke a hit and enjoy. :thumb_up:

 

[Sky Motion]

Sounds cool it reminds me of an experience I had one time with like 15mg too where I was just locked to the floor watching my friends ceiling explode and his cat slithered up to me in the form of a devil snake and started inspecting me...lol just those kinda ah its here ill do it whatev if the tv's on but I can't do that anymore have to be out in nature or dark in my room alone

 

[anrchy]

This was the first time keeping my eyes open, I've been curious from reading posts about it and leary as the only way I feel comfortable is in my bedroom lights off black light on. I'm glad I did it though, and I had some intense inner thought about negative emotions and how they seem fake. I wasn't able to conceptualize a good reason for anger or depression. They just seemed like baggage that we don't need. It felt totally natural to sluff them off as "not a thing".

The laughter part was intense. I've never laughed that hard before, except maybe on mushrooms. There was a strong afterglow that lasted for a very long time. I would love to have a try outside. I can def tell that if you do open eye, outdoors is the way to go. I'm glad that I found, there is still insight with open eye. It's def a different experience.

 

[mescaline-man]

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[SmoovPnCali]

The same thing happened to a friend of mine on a low dose. His big screen (60" I think) was not 3D enabled...just a plain flat screen. His X-Box 360 was on (I think it was the Marvel Universe vs Street Fighter game) and it totally bugged hime out too. He couldn't look at it for very long.

During this same low dose he also said he could see everything in the room with his eyes closed. When he would open his eyes, he would have this "WTF?" look on his face because he thought his eyes were already open...

 

[Eliyahu]

Anrchy-

Hey there...sounds like a wild ride you had...

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not critisizing your psychedelic TV watching, Lord knows I have watched my share of the boob tube while under the influence of just about everything.

I'm just curious whether you have ever smoked DMT in complete darkeness and total silence also keeping your eyes closed during the experience?

If you haven't I would highly suggest it as I believe this is a good way to....
"break on through" so to speak.

 

[Guyomech]

Agreed... The closed eye thing is almost always the way to go, although partway through comedown I usually take a look at the room to see how it's doing, usually with fun and surprising results. But I feel that it's a waste of a peak to have open eyes.

That said, I think SpinCycle's comments about the brain filling in the blanks probably is somewhere near the truth. The other thing worth mentioning about the whole 3D phenomenon is that the purveyors of 3D films, TVs etc are doing everything possible to make their products look impressive. Think about Avatar for example; not only was it produced in 3D (namely, 2 camera angles to reproduce parallax) but it was also filmed in a way to exaggerate depth: lots of forced perspective, atmospheric effects where further objects appear lower in contrast, focus effects where only the main objects in the scene are in sharp focus, etc... Literally every trick in the book. I have lived my whole life with only one functional eye and so 3D movies just look like normal films to me... Except that they are clearly produced in such a way as to create a maximum sense of depth, even without the 3D technology thrown into the mix.

So it's possible that the menu screen in question was using these kinds of tricks to boost a sense of depth. Was it the TV's menu screen, or the cable company?

 

[inaniel]

Sounds interesting. While coming down from a very low dose mimosahuasca session, when I thought I had returned to reality, i saw the cover of an Alex Grey art book in 3d. Decided to look through the book and found all of the images had an entire dimension I had yet to see until that moment. I thought to myself, this must be some sort of hyperspace technology Alex knows how to use, ha! Felt as though I had yet to see his art in its true form until that moment, beautiful.

 

[Global]

I'd like to throw my two cents in if you don't mind. I don't think it necessarily had anything to do with the fact that it was a 3D movie or a 3D TV cause at least when I smoke DMT with my eyes open, the whole 3D room gains an extra dimension (or more), so I'm not particularly surprised that looking at a 2D surface would produce 3D effects.

As for the DMT TV watching, I can't criticize too hard because though I don't really endorse it and am not a particularly big fan, I was curious back in my honeymoon phase where I was experimenting with all different ways to experience DMT, so I'm not gonna be too hypocritical here. I remember wanting to watch Star Wars on DMT. It was on cable, so in an almost humorous bout of bad luck, every time I would get done taking my hits, it would go to commercial, and I would be left tripping hard for a commercial. Anyway, when I finally timed it right (in my case - and this is not talking to the 3D issue at all), it was interesting because everything on the screen looked completely the same, but it was the outside world around the TV that was really interesting. As I focused on the screen, I was treated to my first experience as well that was a completely eye-open experience, and I was flabergasted to see what would go on if I kept my eyes open. There were large holographic arrows and vectors shooting from one side of the room to the other. An elaborate chandelier-like hologram that became as large as the room started unfolding itself in a lovely sophisticated fashion with all of its inter-movable, inter-dimensional parts. The sheer intricacy and appreciation of depth, dimension, logic and beauty all coming together with these open-eyed abstractions was just beautiful.

So while I've never watched a movie or any TV again with DMT before or since, I am grateful for the experience in showing me the beginning of what was possible with eyes open. I usually don't make the entire journey with open eyes because I side with Guyomech on this one, but I've made some exceptions, and often times it's if I begin to think that the closed eye visuals aren't going anywhere or aren't going much further, then I'll open my eyes to try and make the most out of seeing what holograms will begin to float around my room. It's a real treat to have Egyptian statues and other Egyptian holograms just floating around the room.

 

[Rubensis]

I can't explain how it works. But I had sort af a similar experience on ketamine. One night I was experimenting with ketamine at a friends house. We did 4 key-points of ket during te evening, with an hourly interval. Went for a walk, to a small party and back to his place. This was pretty strong ket. One point would already give some nice cev's.

After getting back from the party we settled on his couch. He started playing this movie, the journey 2.

After a little wile we descided to end our ketamine experiment for the night with one bigger sniff then the previous ones. I guess we each lined up an amount comparable with 3 key-points. Little line of 1,5 cm.

He did it first, then I followed. Lying under a soft blanket on the couch, i felt the sedative effects set on, then the psychedelic, seeing immages, one after another, with eyes closed. I don't know how I got there butt at once I'm in the movie. Seeing everyting like more than in 3d. There is a chase with birds and bees in this movie, we were watching this. I felt every hair on the bees back, every feather when this birds got hit or something. I felt even the wind over my body. At some point i see that I'm looking at the television, seeing also the surrounding( the room, table,...). Before I didn't really realize this. At one point a girl was hanging over a cliff and a boy has got her by her arm. Then she slips out of his hand. I felt these arms sliding over each other all the way trough my being. Very intense, very 3d, very enjoyable too.

This wis also just a regular flat-screen tv.

 

[3rdI]

i dont mean to de-mean your visual crazyness but you smoked DMT and the TV turned 3D, is that really that much of a shock considering what DMT does?

 

[universecannon]

i dont mean to de-mean your visual crazyness but you smoked DMT and the TV turned 3D, is that really that much of a shock considering what DMT does?

no offence but i don't understand all the hullabaloo either..Everything looks more vivid, crisp, colorful, alive, and 3D on DMT...people have seen the content of posters or tapestries jump out at them, so why some are surprised a 3D television would look 3D without the glasses, i really don't know.. to each their own, i personally wouldn't smoke dmt and watch tv; but i suspect even a normal non-3D tv would look pretty darn 3D considering what dmt does