I think this world is hell

[fink]

I like those words Lux. I believe you a right especially about religion bringing a lot of comfort to those without the desire or capacity to work stuff out themself. Enabling the wicked to exploit and control at the same time.

Everything in existence follows a similar rule perhaps. With water you can quench someone's thirst... or drown them.

 

[purrpuss]

Too much thinking, go for a walk and enjoy Nature

The idea that Earth is the hell of another world is not my own. Usually, to support this thesis, people simply suggest looking around. All of human history is an endless meat grinder: war after war, epidemic after epidemic, famine, slavery, torture, disease, genocide. And this is the world that a good Lord created? This point confuses many, and I think priests are no exception. Why is the world arranged this way and not otherwise, that is, not better? The common answers to this question sound unconvincing. They talk about free will, that the existing evil is the fault of humanity, or that God punishes sinners, or that evil is created by Satan, but there is a sense of uncertainty in all of this, a feeling of inherent wrongness. If the devil torments people, then why doesn’t the omnipotent God stop him? If God punishes sinners in this way, then what has an infant done to deserve it, who, due to their age, hasn’t had the chance to commit any crimes and is hit by a car? Do people create evil themselves? Perhaps. But truly evil people are very few; why do they define the nature of the entire world, and this has been the case throughout the existence of this world? And again, how did the Lord allow this? Overall, it all seems rather unconvincing. But if we assume that we all died a long time ago and now find ourselves in hell, then everything falls into place.


...the condemnation of suicide becomes understandable. It is an attempt to ESCAPE from prison without serving the sentence.


...the most terrible torment for a person is not knowing what awaits them after death: whether there will be life or if there is nothing ahead. This is truly a HELLISH punishment.


The question arises: what did the real world look like before we died and ended up in hell? If there were sinners in that real world and they ended up in hell, that is, on Earth, then there was evil there too. I believe the real world is a place where every person can communicate with God. And knowing for sure that God exists, some still manage to do evil. One must be a truly hardened sinner for that. And for this, there is punishment: the destruction of memory and being sent to hell, that is, to Earth.


It is very possible that beyond hell, there is another hell. Depending on behavior, a criminal may be granted amnesty or have their punishment intensified. The commandments are a guide to the path of liberation.


We know that the devil is the prince of this world, meaning he is the ruler of Earth. But it is also known that he is the lord of HELL. Again, this indirectly suggests the need to equate hell and Earth. Then everything aligns: the devil rules the Earth, the devil rules hell, which means that Earth and hell have a common ruler; at the very least, Earth and hell are in UNION, or perhaps they are even the same place.

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[s2cndchance]

I think this world is hell. The suffering of people and animals, wars, tooth pain, fragile health, and the fragile human body, brainwashing, all the crazy satanism around, these are all the bad things going on here. They are here you can't refuse it. Truth and kindness are not valued. People hate the truth that makes them uncomfortable and instantly hate you for it.

In the most widespread religions on planet Earth, particularly the Abrahamic ones, it is asserted that hell and heaven are the afterlife destinies of a person depending on what they do in their earthly life..... if their life is pleasing to the Lord, they will end up in the garden of paradise.... if they are a sinner, they will suffer eternally in hell.


Nonetheless, some philosophers have noted that the modern world is already structured in such a way that it resembles a fully realized and well-constructed hell. In this world, the main principle is entropy and the finiteness of everything, and any systems eventually decline and perish without a trace, and among people, the most desirable qualities are adaptability and treachery, while honesty leads only to hatred and a low status.


From this, the conclusion that the modern world is already hell, and the local inhabitants are apparently serving their punishment for certain sins in past lives or some other existence. It is impossible to make the world any different, as these are its fundamental principles.

You may enjoy the book "Alien Interview"
Or the Gnostic religious stuff.
Or a good chunk of NDE reports.

 

[Seagull]

I think this world is hell. The suffering of people and animals, wars, tooth pain, fragile health, and the fragile human body, brainwashing, all the crazy satanism around, these are all the bad things going on here. They are here you can't refuse it. Truth and kindness are not valued. People hate the truth that makes them uncomfortable and instantly hate you for it.

In the most widespread religions on planet Earth, particularly the Abrahamic ones, it is asserted that hell and heaven are the afterlife destinies of a person depending on what they do in their earthly life..... if their life is pleasing to the Lord, they will end up in the garden of paradise.... if they are a sinner, they will suffer eternally in hell.


Nonetheless, some philosophers have noted that the modern world is already structured in such a way that it resembles a fully realized and well-constructed hell. In this world, the main principle is entropy and the finiteness of everything, and any systems eventually decline and perish without a trace, and among people, the most desirable qualities are adaptability and treachery, while honesty leads only to hatred and a low status.


From this, the conclusion that the modern world is already hell, and the local inhabitants are apparently serving their punishment for certain sins in past lives or some other existence. It is impossible to make the world any different, as these are its fundamental principles.

It's like you hit the nail on the head. At the same time then this world can be paradise 2. All these kids growing up experiencing care and love from their parents, people achieving amazing feats just because they want to. Learning and expanding their knowledge. I could go on and on but you get the point

 

[CataractSurgeon]

I think this world is hell.

It is as luck can provide and intention - heaven and hell. Most importantly consciousnesses is a special gift of us and maybe some animals too…

The universe sees itself via our consciousness. It is uncaring as to how that plays out - it simply wants to see itself with no value judgement -

Our values are related to our survival and comfort- not always positive mind you but they are just our survival values of what we like to feel

The universe wants to see itself and maybe feel in general with no judgment or discernment as to what we find good or bad - pleasurable or painful as we may experience them