I would like to share my knowledge

[purple_dye]

I for one like the guy. He is obviously an intellectual and has his fair share of experience.



A big warm Welcome Nagual!

I'd also like to hear your views on diet.



Kind Regards,
Purp

 

[ziggus]

Welcome, Nagual. Looking forward to more info about your "pluronic lecithin organogel" topical DMT mixture.

 

[Pandora]

I have spent time absorbing the forums here. I understand wanting to get to know someone before they start pushing a lot of stuff at you. I did it because my life has become so completely different, in a positive way, that I didn't want to wait any longer to share with people. I know DMT is a transformative substance even used in the normal way, I myself experienced this. I was forward because this goes way beyond that. Regular DMT use let me become a better person, this let me become whoever the fuck I want.

Welcome to the Nexus,

Many posts here with varying degrees of diplomacy have basically been saying, hey, look around, absorb some of the local color/culture, before setting up shop and hoping people will flood to you because you hung a shingle out. Many folks here are employed scientists or engineers or computer/software people and many more are working actively in that direction. Many here have traveled either extensively or in a limited manner to study with traditional shamen.

I would encourage you to spend a lot more time absorbing the forums here, including the attitude area.

People have been here for years. Many many have had the same types of experiences as you, but we all approach it in our own ways, find our own paths. You will not find many strict hedonists here. Uncle Knucles self identifies as does my husband, Nemo Amicus, but most are on a journey, a path, seeking more answers and even more questions.

What works for you may or may not work well for anyone else here. DMT is SUCH a personal and individual thing . . . . hadn't you noticed? For all the common themes, it delivers very personal messages. Your message may not have any relevance to me, my life or experience. Mine may have similar lack of relevance to yours. Or we may resonate. Who knows?

One more thing: Your history - clearly your are not a kid, you have a few decades under your belt, you have worked with traditional masters, etc. Surely, if your powerful message and recipes for personal transformation are real and meaningful, they will hold for another six weeks, heck another year . . . . what's the rush. Come on in, . . . sit a spell, . . . take your coat off . . . .

Again welcome . . . .

 

[anrchy]

Yes nagual please don't take it so harshly. It seems to me that you do indeed have a wealth of information to share and I also wish to hear more.

Please understand though, your wording came off harsh and you were returned with harshness. Luckily I have read many posts now since yours and have recognized the situation, as other members have as well.

Again do not be deterred from sharing just understand by showing up at our community and saying you are hear to teach us about DMT, which is not what you meant just how it sounded, that fluffed some feathers. So please, share your information with us as we will with you. Welcome to the nexus.

 

[Nagual]

Welcome to the Nexus,

Many posts here with varying degrees of diplomacy have basically been saying, hey, look around, absorb some of the local color/culture, before setting up shop and hoping people will flood to you because you hung a shingle out.

I would encourage you to spend a lot more time absorbing the forums here, including the attitude area.

People have been here for years. Many many have had the same types of experiences as you, but we all approach it in our own ways, find our own paths. You will not find many strict hedonists here. Uncle Knucles self identifies as does my husband, Nemo Amicus, but most are on a journey, a path, seeking more answers and even more questions.

What works for you may or may not work well for anyone else here. DMT is SUCH a personal and individual thing . . . . hadn't you noticed? For all the common themes, it delivers very personal messages. Your message may not have any relevance to me, my life or experience. Mine may have similar lack of relevance to yours. Or we may resonate. Who knows?

One more thing: Your history - clearly your are not a kid, you have a few decades under your belt, you have worked with traditional masters, etc. Surely, if your powerful message and recipes for personal transformation are real and meaningful, they will hold for another six weeks, heck another year . . . . what's the rush. Come on in, . . . sit a spell, . . . take your coat off . . . .

Again welcome . . . .

I guess I will just take this as a lesson at this point. Thank you.


I only felt that I could share my personal journey because I have successfully pulled people into it during rituals. I believe that it is possible to induce my state through deep understanding of the person being induced, a philosophical preparation and hypnotic induction. I make no claim that I can do this consistently, only that I have succeeded in the past.

 

[Nagual]

Yes nagual please don't take it so harshly. It seems to me that you do indeed have a wealth of information to share and I also wish to hear more.

Please understand though, your wording came off harsh and you were returned with harshness. Luckily I have read many posts now since yours and have recognized the situation, as other members have as well.

Again do not be deterred from sharing just understand by showing up at our community and saying you are hear to teach us about DMT, which is not what you meant just how it sounded, that fluffed some feathers. So please, share your information with us as we will with you. Welcome to the nexus.

Thanks for the kind words. I hope that my previous zeal won't turn anyone off from sharing with me.

 

[anrchy]

Don't worry, the people here are just as quick to be friendly as they are to question ones confidence. Now, please tell me about this 24/7 dosing and also the cognitive enhancing abilities you theorize DMT to have.

Do the effects lessen if you have decreased usage? What chemicals exactly are required for this?

Your topical DMT, how long does it last and what dose is required in a comparible smokable dose?

 

[cyantific]

Thanks for joining us here Nagual.

Are you taking phenelzine daily?

Have you had any adverse effects using this drug as your maoi?

 

[Entropymancer]

Perhaps it's my contrarian nature, but I'm going to disagree with just about everyone else who has replied in this thread. There's no need to "sit a spell" for six weeks or anything like that.

Nagual, I found your original post to be slightly irksome... Not because you showed up and announced immediately that you had information to share; information is great. What bothered me was that you said that you had information to share, but you didn't actually share any of it.

I say go ahead and post whatever you see fit. Don't feel like you have to hang around making idle smalltalk and posts with little content just so people can get to know you. People can get to know you just as well in discussions centered on informative topics.

I'm curious about the PLO gel preparation. Do you use a commercially available PLO kit, or mix it yourself? Do you incorporate the DMT as a salt in the aqueous component, or as the free base in the apolar component?


At any rate, welcome to the Nexus! As you've no doubt observed, we're an interesting lot. You're correct that "shaman" is a bit of a dirty word here when self-applied by people who are not native practitioners. But don't let such minor misunderstandings deter you. The regulars here are good-hearted folks, even if some people can get a little defensive at times.

 

[corpus callosum]

Nagual, welcome aboard!

Im intrigued by your use of phenelzine as the MAOI; as you know its an irreversible inhibitor of both MAOI types A+B and its metabolites are active in their own right.May I ask what dose you use and how frequently (with respect to concurrent DMT ingestion)?Are you able to elaborate on the subjective differences when compared to other MAOIs including harmalas, or any others you may have sampled?

Once more, welcome to the Nexus!

 

[Nagual]

Nagual, welcome aboard!

Im intrigued by your use of phenelzine as the MAOI; as you know its an irreversible inhibitor of both MAOI types A+B and its metabolites are active in their own right.May I ask what dose you use and how frequently (with respect to concurrent DMT ingestion)?Are you able to elaborate on the subjective differences when compared to other MAOIs including harmalas, or any others you may have sampled?

The correct dose of phenelzine is dependent on your tolerance to its activities. The range goes from 60mg to 120mg/day. I generally like to space all my supplement dosing out to three times a day with food. For phenelzine I specifically time it around the ingestion periods of DMT. If you are doing a single dose I would generally advise a quarter of your dose ~3-4 hours before, half 30 minutes before, then a quarter 2-3 hours later. If you are doing successive doses, spread the doses evenly over the time period starting an hour and a half before the first dose. Phenelzine is a very powerful drug. Thankfully, it also has a very low body load, and is generally well tolerated.

To role-play a shaman for a minute: Phenelzine is calming, soothing and generally very warm and encouraging. Imagine that it is like a protective golden aura that illuminates everything around you. Phenelzine is gentle and nurturing like a mother. Harmala is cold, hostile, it doesn't want to be in my body. It wants to escape. It can be bent to the will of man, but it is not a willing servant. It fights your efforts, draining your energy and causing fatigue. Caapi is meeker and more submissive, without a lot of character, but causes digestive irritation.

 

[SpartanII]

To continue being constructive:

Because the ayahuasca experience can be so overpowering, a combination of herbs and supplements is helpful to keep you grounded. I have found the following to be helpful:

Fish oil
Theanine
Ashwagandha
Schizandra
Skullcap
Gotu Kola
Lemon Balm
Pramiracetam
Centrophexine
Sulbutiamine
Modafinil

The most important thing is to work very hard remain present and do not let yourself feel weak, uncoordinated, tense or out of control. The herbs and supplements are only an aid to that process.

Other possible Anti-stress aids:

-GABA
-Holy Basil
-B vitamin complex
-Eleuthero
-Passion Flower

Welcome!

 

[Nagual]

Perhaps it's my contrarian nature, but I'm going to disagree with just about everyone else who has replied in this thread. There's no need to "sit a spell" for six weeks or anything like that.

Nagual, I found your original post to be slightly irksome... Not because you showed up and announced immediately that you had information to share; information is great. What bothered me was that you said that you had information to share, but you didn't actually share any of it.

I say go ahead and post whatever you see fit. Don't feel like you have to hang around making idle smalltalk and posts with little content just so people can get to know you. People can get to know you just as well in discussions centered on informative topics.

I'm curious about the PLO gel preparation. Do you use a commercially available PLO kit, or mix it yourself? Do you incorporate the DMT as a salt in the aqueous component, or as the free base in the apolar component?


At any rate, welcome to the Nexus! As you've no doubt observed, we're an interesting lot. You're correct that "shaman" is a bit of a dirty word here when self-applied by people who are not native practitioners. But don't let such minor misunderstandings deter you. The regulars here are good-hearted folks, even if some people can get a little defensive at times.

I have used Phlojel Ultra and made my own. My homemade PLO was based on some recipe I found on Google scholar; it might require a subscription, if so just go to your local university library. They were basically identical; the Phlojel texture was a bit nicer but functionally equivalent.

The aqueous layer is doom. You need to pull down from the apolar solvent, or just incorporate the apolar solvent into the topical. The all natural limonene Tek floating around is actually an ok starting point. You can get a decent product with just a vacuum drying. A gentle wash in a coffee filter and sublimation will take you the rest of the way - you'll get better crystal formation if there is a small amount of water to incorporate into the structure and the azole and amine groups are of opposite charge. If you don't have a speed vac >) you could try placing dry ice and isopropyl alcohol in a styrofoam cooler, then placing your beaker with the apolar solvent and DMT in the ice bath VEEEERY SLOWLY while scraping around its inner surface with a glass rod very slowly until a precipitate forms on the tip. This should be enough to nucleate a nice nugget of DMT while your solution is cooling, as long as you lower the temperature slowly. This will work beautifully with some solvents, but poorly with others, though I would need to spend a bit of time with the Merck Index to tell you which it will be for your solvent of choice.

 

[Nagual]

Other possible Anti-stress aids:

-GABA
-Holy Basil
-B complex
-Eleuthero
-Passion Flower

I'm afriad I must disagree here. Both Eleuthero and Passion Flower have a good chance of interacting with the phenelzine and causing high blood pressure and an uncomfortable pressure behind the eyes. B5 is good to supplement with phenelzine though.

 

[SpartanII]

Other possible Anti-stress aids:

-GABA
-Holy Basil
-B complex
-Eleuthero
-Passion Flower

I'm afriad I must disagree here. Both Eleuthero and Passion Flower have a good chance of interacting with the phenelzine and causing high blood pressure and an uncomfortable pressure behind the eyes. B5 is good to supplement with phenelzine though.

I never made any claims or said anything about phenelzine, I was being general.

Also, one thing I've found to be very physically relaxing and grounding is magnesium in the form of Natural Calm, the fizzy magnesium citrate drink.

 

[Nagual]

I never made any claims or said anything about phenylalanine, I was being general.

Also, one thing I've found to be very physically relaxing and grounding is magnesium in the form of Natural Calm, the fizzy magnesium citrate drink.

Don't take it personally!

In the context of this thread a warning was necessary but that doesn't mean your contribution was any less appreciated

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

i am surprised you didn't get a warmer welcome nagual, i am sure there are many valuable contributions we shall see from you yet..

Normally, when you are under the influence of DMT this process is very chaotic and will tend to cause confusion and jumbled thoughts (i.e. you're tripping) and as a result you do not benefit significantly from the enhanced learning abilities. In order to unlock the power of DMT for massive cognitive enhancement, you must start with low doses and practice staying calm, present and composed no matter what (there are herbs and supplements that assist in this). As your ability to stay present improves, you gradually increase your dosage (the learning effect is linearly dose dependent).

this seems reminiscent of the terence mckenna adage: "don't give into astonishment"

 

[Nagual]

Don't worry, the people here are just as quick to be friendly as they are to question ones confidence. Now, please tell me about this 24/7 dosing and also the cognitive enhancing abilities you theorize DMT to have.

Do the effects lessen if you have decreased usage? What chemicals exactly are required for this?

Your topical DMT, how long does it last and what dose is required in a comparible smokable dose?

High dose psychedelics are stressful on your nervous system. I view this stress in a similar light to the stress one puts on a muscle while lifting weights (which is also more nervous than muscle, interestingly enough).

A little analogy I like to use to get people in the right state of mind:
imagine you are walking into a commercial gym full of frat boys and pimply high school jock wannabes in muscle shirts (don't forget that is a persona and they are genuine humans beneath it). Everyone is obviously trying to impress the cute girls in the gym with how strong they are, but they don't have the balls to go be genuine. Think to yourself that nothing matters (in a liberating sense) and be completely unashamed.

 

[tele]

Castaneda made up everything he wrote in those books..he admited it later on to one of his friends. He ended up being the ring leader of some weird cult sort of thing surrounded by his followers.

Yeah this is what I meant by "having enough of that kind of knowledge":lol:

Nagual you seem to have some interesting points risen from your explorations, but remember that information obtained from subjective experiences doesn't always work equally for every body.

BTW I read your posts so far and I don't see how they can lift me from my level of existence of "1. smoalking more" and "2. Making changa" -joke. Don't you think you came off arrogant when replying to my bit of fun?:?: To me it sounded like you actually thought that smoalking more and making changa is some kind of lower or limited level compared to your prescious knowledge, which is quite lame and arrogant attitude for a person who considers himself to have even a bit of knowledge about DMT. Basically I believe one who thinks he knows DMT just makes that illusion for him/herself, as most of us know it's just too vast to know even during a whole lifetime. I don't think you have stated anywhere exactly "I know DMT", but it have sounded a bit like that at points...

1.Smoalk more
2.Make changa

1. ...Thumbs up
2. ...Thumbs up

If that is the level you want to exist at...

 

[rahlii]

Hey Nagual,

Do you have any observations on your blood pressure since you have undertaken constant dmt application?