If you're having trouble getting crystals from acrb, use this tek (thick-light)

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Quick question to those that have extracted using this tek (or any A/B), what are the dosage ranges that you guys are using and how similar are the experiences compared to the extract from mhrb? Is the NMT a huge complementary to the spice? Does it over power the spice or muddle it up?

Just wondering since I have always extracted from mimosa and have yet to buy ACRB, but will be acquiring some ACRB very soon.

Tat Tvam Asi

I have been using 40mg and it seems more powerful to me than 40mg of mimosa extract. It's very hard to describe but i like it better for sure. It definitely adds it's own flavor. It's beautiful. I have broken through every time on 40mg.

Thanks :thumb_up: I'll be doing an A/B very soon with this tek, with the addition of adding said amount of salt to the base mix. (kudos to CTM and cyb)

 

[gapingmind]

Finished first pull ever last night, go t orange goo at room temp.freeze precipitating right now. ready and eager for my first experience i let it dry out for a few hours and wiped up maybe a quarter of my pull. Let me just say when i came out it felt like i had woke up for the first in my life. but im afraid it will be too intense for a friend of mine who has little experience in psychoactives. So, how can i adequately dose this goo. Also it had a strong meth taste, can anyone confirm thats the harsh taste, or do i have an issue with my spice. Greatly appreciate any replies. Thanks all.

 

[null24]

Thanks TL, even though I didnt follow to the letter, and ended up with a small yield of goo, I'm still very pleased with the results of my first extraction. This was a process. I began my attempt around the same time that you started this thread and it took until a couple days ago to finish. I had a crisis erupt in the middle and had to put the acetyl solution aside for over a week.
Very few xtals, but they were there, spread evenly around the pyrex on a matrix of crystal clear goo. 2 days later its the consistency of wet putty. I mixed ashes into it to make it a little easier to work with, at least it doesnt stick to everything that way.
I have a little exp from MHRB "jungle" spice ( boy I'd liketo relate the story behind that as a lesson to folks who may want to sell the spirit, as the dude that sold it to me is now in Club Fed due to extraordinary circumstances) as well as synthetic DMT and IV'd and smoked furmerate. This stuff seems waaay more powerful Havent fully bioassayed yet, but a SMALL puff I barely inhaled just to test the smoothness of the smoke (not smooth at all btw, got to clean I think) resulted in 10 seconds of crawling carpet and my god the taste. Oh my god the taste. I love it.

 

[BobDobalina]

Are we allowed to discuss ACRB vendors and/or prices? I'll keep it vague and say that after purchasing 1 lb from a vendor, I found another vendor selling it for about half the price. It just makes me wonder who has quality rootbark etc. The bark seemed fairly expensive compared to other botanicals.

 

[dreamer042]

In our effort to push our members toward personal sustainability and responsibility in their use of these substances, only vendors of live plants and viable seeds are allowed to be posted here now.

We are all proficient in the use of search engines these days, I'm quite sure we can seek out anything else we might need with a little of that old google-fu.

 

[BobDobalina]

Alright thanks. The cheaper vendor doesn't have any reviews or feedback that I could find with google so I'll stick with what's working.

 

[dxmroid]

Thick when is your tek coming out, I know you said 2 weeks, I cant sleep waiting for it hehehe

 

[NamahsNaicigam]

Going to try this tek with some revisions. Pics and details when finished. Here is an outline. Input appreciated.

1 Prepare 448g ACRB with pruning sheers as fine as possible

2 Prepare jar of water and bark

3 Freeze and thaw twice

4 Wash 5 times at ph4 (Filtering solution with cheese cloth and stainless steel funnel each time it is transferred from washing pot to reducing pot)

5 Reduce to 3000ml

6 Separate into 2 jars at 1500ml each (Filtering solution with cheese cloth and stainless steel funnel when transferred from reducing pot to jar)

7 Basify with lye to ph 13

8 Add 600ml naphtha

9 Shake and let separate 10x (use crockpot to keep solution warm between shakes)

10 Decant naphtha as soon as it is completely separated

11 Evaporate naphtha to 50% (300ml)

12 Freeze precipitate

13 Decant

14 Repete steps 8 through 13 until yield is low

15 Add ice cream salt

16 Pull again

 

[Metanoia]

I'm doing this tek presently and will post results when complete. I just poured my room temp. naphtha off and got a nice bunch of crystals. Freeze precipitating now.

NamahsNaicigam, sounds good. As for the first step, I just soaked my bark and then froze it. Let sit in the water for five minutes, strain, then freeze. Then thaw, then refreeze. Used the vinegar-water for the first boil.

Those filtering steps are necessary though, something that thicklight didn't specify originally. And the crock pot used to keep the jars warm is brilliant. Just hot enough for me to handle with my hands (with gloves on). And I'm a chef, so my hands can handle the heat

 

[BobDobalina]

Sorry for an ignorant question, but I was wondering what the purpose of freezing the bark was? I followed a similar guide that didn't include that step and got minimal results. I'm going to try this tek and hope it turns out better. I was just curious about the freezing part.

Thanks in advance

EDIT - Sorry I realized I have another question. When you say to boil it in the first step, do you literally mean "boil?" The other guide said to make sure it doesn't boil and keep it at a simmer, but again they got low yields and you obviously know what you're doing

 

[NamahsNaicigam]

Hi Bob. Most of the questions can be answered by reading through the thread. However, the purpose of freezing the bark is to further break down the walls of the plant cells so that the alkaloids are released more easily.

I dont think Dioxippus actually means "boil" in the sense of a rolling boil (as if you were cooking food). Too much heat will reduce your yields. It's just another (misleading) term for "wash".

 

[BobDobalina]

Hi Bob. Most of the questions can be answered by reading through the thread. However, the purpose of freezing the bark is to further break down the walls of the plant cells so that the alkaloids are released more easily.

I dont think Dioxippus actually means "boil" in the sense of a rolling boil (as if you were cooking food). Too much heat will reduce your yields. It's just another (misleading) term for "wash".

Thanks, I read through all 10 pages now and should have done so before asking.. Anyway thanks for clarifying.

I figured that was the case for the "boils", OP used the same term so I wanted to double check. I'm starting to catch on to the terms and a general sense of A/B. I did 4 boils/cooks on low heat and the 5th one (cooking now) seems pretty clear. The rest of the tek seems pretty straight forward so I'm looking forward to hopefully having a decent yield.

 

[ChemisTryptaMan]

As was said before, this is just an A/B tek. If cyb's tek is followed, except for the addition of a defat while the solution is still acidic, you should get much higher yields and your early pulls will be quite clean. I would suggest if you want higher yields to go with that tek. Another member used cyb's tek and got a yield of 2.85% using cyb's tek and didn't even include a defat, though if you already have an acidic solution that has been heated for a while a defat with heavy naphtha would only add about a minute to the process so I would definitely do one. Just wanted to share those results, I believe it was deadhor5 who got this yield, but I may be mistaken.

 

[booga4life]

thick-light IMO you should edit your original post, so people dont have to read through the entire thread to see the slight changes that have been made to it.

also what do you think about using acacia acuminata on this tek?

 

[null24]

I have been using 40mg and it seems more powerful to me than 40mg of mimosa extract. It's very hard to describe but i like it better for sure. It definitely adds it's own flavor. It's beautiful. I have broken through every time on 40mg.

I agree. I have never done an extraction on MHRB, but have enjoyed the energy of a fumarate and a jungle spice product from MHRB, as well as a synthetic DMT. I just completed my first ext from ACRB, and feel the effects of the spice pulled from it (which is a clear goo, a few xtals, but mostly goo that dries to a nice white putty actually) to be very jungl-ey. There is a phase in a jungle trip for me that I get with the ACRB extract. It is very "bright" that is the adjective I came up with as soon as I came down. And POWERFUL strong. It does seem a tad more potent by volume than what Ive seen before. Very nice.

 

[dxmroid]

somewhere in here he said he was going to do a write up for it..

in the meantime anyone else want to volunteer a write up 8)

 

[ChrisChris517]

somewhere in here he said he was going to do a write up for it..

in the meantime anyone else want to volunteer a write up 8)

hahaha. this would be nice. not going to lie

 

[Metanoia]

I dont think Dioxippus actually means "boil" in the sense of a rolling boil (as if you were cooking food). Too much heat will reduce your yields. It's just another (misleading) term for "wash".

I kept it at a high simmer, obviously you can't boil for an hour and a half because everything will evaporate

I'll do a write up of my results for this tek once it's all completed. I got some nice fluffy white crystals with my first pulls. Probably end up with some paste/goo with the next pulls.

 

[BobDobalina]

I dont think Dioxippus actually means "boil" in the sense of a rolling boil (as if you were cooking food). Too much heat will reduce your yields. It's just another (misleading) term for "wash".

I kept it at a high simmer, obviously you can't boil for an hour and a half because everything will evaporate

Thanks, that certainly makes sense :lol:

I'm not sure what went wrong with the other A/B tek, but I wasn't able to pull anything out of the basified solution that I had saved. I tried with warm naptha this time, but only got a small dot of goo (1/2 grain of rice).

However I do have some good news. I followed this tek closely with new bark and just pulled a very milky layer of Naptha off. With the failed tek it was always crystal clear. I have a good feeling about this one!

 

[dxmroid]

any word from thick on the write up yet?

I'm really eager to follow this tek on my first extraction and would love a write up of his steps.

I'm hoping to write all my method down and take pics for record