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I'm not having a good first DMT experience, HELP!

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Northerner said:
This hasn't come up Dani, but it would be remiss of me not to mention it as I thought it.

At 17 years old your brain is still developing, a lot. You may feel like an adult but your brain is not that of an adult brain.

There are no studies about the effect of DMT on developing brains. This does not mean it will not effect you in the long term. It's well known that many other drugs cause changes and it's not an illogical extrapolation to think that there may be changes to your neural networks that are more persistent than you would hope. There may be some danger here.

It's just a word of caution. If you were my friend or family I would be encouraging you to leave it for some years and come back when you are a bit older.

Even though we should live in the moment life is long. We should play for that long game.

Of course you will what you will, I'm not trying to tell you what to do.

Be safe brother.
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I have missed the part of you being still 17 & I would agree with Northerner. We don't know a lot and it is better to err on the safe side. I'm also pointing out, that the age limit for this Forum is 18+ Attitude Page - DMT-Nexus Wiki

In light of this, i would say to keep living with what you have experienced for a while longer and then come back later. It might even be that the DMT entities try to tell you that smoking DMT at your age is not a good idea, but i don't know.
 
Although I agree with the caution and safety suggested in previous replies, I'm with Psilosopher's outlook. I'm glad I started with breakthrough dose because that idea of selfless awareness and universal unity followed by revolution is what I go back for.

200mg is rediculous though and I had had my ass kicked from 110mg forcing a big break from adventures because of introduction of fear that wasn't there previously.

Get a cheap electric plate vaporiser so you can control the output more precisely. If I were to cautiously recommend a course of action it would be to keep taking small doses and get used to that buzz. Try humming during the experience and let the frequency slide into one that compliments the buzz, then let it wash over you.
A more reckless suggestion is that you should have taken that 50mg mate.

Fear is natural, I've had a dozen breakthroughs and I am still nervous before trips, even up to that third hit.
You have to have resolve to not get distracted by the fast come on of that buzz and take that last hit.

That said, I wouldn't suggest pushing it. Approach with humility, trust your intuition and guard against egotistic descisions. Above all you have to trust the DMT, for me, as soon as I've had doubts that this experience is healthy, that is the moment fear is introduced to me.
 
I have to agree with Northerner about age and developing brains. This will probably seem rude of me but you said you had read a lot of experiences on the forum but the most important info is in such topics as "why not to take DMT and the FAQ and Wiki. If after the 10mg, you had increased 5 or 2.5mg you might have avoided the trauma. You will be fine, you have plenty of time, don't rush things or build up expectations, wait and see what develops...take your hit in darkness, lie back eyes closed on your bed and Enjoy :love:
 
Thanks everyone! With the age thing, I know it probably isn't the best idea to do this at (practically 18) and I know I do have a lot of time later in life but I do enjoy experimenting with psychedelics now and it has really changed me for the better. I want to keep building myself as a person and I feel that at my age there's also more room for development.

I said I would update how things went after reading the help from this forum so here goes:

I was kind of high which I feel did take from the experience a little bit but I think it actually also made things nicer. I meditated a little bit and took 10mg, I felt really euphoric and happy and just amazing. Better than my first experience with 10mg.

I then meditated again and went for 20mg. Last time I did that I didn't really feel euphoric at all, just anxiety but this time I felt a lot more comfortable and I also had someone with me which really did help. It wasn't intense though, and felt less like DMT and more like being really really high on weed. Visuals were pretty weak, only some blurry closed eye ones but mentally it really was positive! I didn't feel any other 'presence' like I have before though.

I hope it wasn't just positive because I was a little high. I'll stay in the 20mg range until I feel fully comfortable. Thanks for all the help guys! I was actually planning to try to break through before posting here and I think it would have been pretty horrible so love you all :)
 

^thread includes research about adolescents and Aya in a post by endlessness (1 of 3 research links worked for me, I've attached the paper in case that final link breaks in tbe future too).

It looks like adolescent girls taking Aya had fewer psychological issues, but the research is inconclusive (authors wonder if the effect could be from religion and not Aya itself). I wonder if moar research has been done over the past 4 years.
 

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