• Members of the previous forum can retrieve their temporary password here, (login and check your PM).

TEK impatient mans high yeild high purity STB extraction (mimosa hostilis root bark)

This topic contain a TEK
i am not making any specific suggestions, but rather

i'd like to see how u turned the ultrasonic into a vacuum chamber. and tbh itd be helpful to ur whole setup if ur willing to share. i've been lookin for a used rotovap on fb & was debating maybe the chinese ones on alibaba or temu. u think 1L size is enough?
Sure I'll post pics of the full vacuum/ultrasonic chamber set up in a little while, tbh I didn't do anything to the actual ultrasonic tank itself and it's just a regular 6L one from harbor freight, basically identical to the vevor one too. Surprisingly enough it can hold full 29 inhg vacuum without the tank imploding on itself, and the lid flexes a little but still holds vacuum and that's after I cut a 4" hole out of the center for a sight glass lol. Will update with pictures a little later
 
i am not making any specific suggestions, but rather

i'd like to see how u turned the ultrasonic into a vacuum chamber. and tbh itd be helpful to ur whole setup if ur willing to share. i've been lookin for a used rotovap on fb & was debating maybe the chinese ones on alibaba or temu. u think 1L size is enough?
Here is some pics of the vacuum chamber set up. Basically just cut out a hole for a sight glass, used 3m window weld (used to install windshields on cars, shits amazing basically urethane paste but once it dries it does not come off, and is structurally very strong) and put a port for the vacuum line with a ball valve and quick connect so I can pull vacuum and unhook the pump, and then put another port for a vacuum gauge and I added a little valve to release the vacuum. I used random shit I had laying around the house for all of it, fittings and all that was stuff I've collected over the years. I put rubber washers that I bought from some hardware store and washers on each fitting to sandwich the rubber washers against the lid to make a air tight fit. For a gasket I used this dental mold making shit I acquired from a friend that's hella expensive so I wouldn't recommend, any sort of silicone rtv would work I would just rub some oil onto the tank and let the rtv skin over before squishing the lid on to set the shape. Fairly simple but getting it to have no leaks did prove to be a bit of a struggle at first lol. I also made a few jar lids with the quick connect and ball valve on top too so I can vacuum purge heptane just out of a jar without having to use the tank.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20261017_211351091.jpg
    IMG_20261017_211351091.jpg
    1.4 MB · Views: 2
  • IMG_20261017_211428585.jpg
    IMG_20261017_211428585.jpg
    1.4 MB · Views: 2
That is a ghetto build lol. I'm impressed, but those adhesives and sealants have gotta be susceptible to heptane vapors. The gaskets in the pump itself are surely susceptible to heptane vapors, so this will be an interesting experiment how long the pump lasts doing this.

Ultrasonic passes through glass. I don't think researchers are actually rawdogging their reactions in the ultrasonic basin. Usually people just place their vessel in the bath.
 
i am not making any specific suggestions, but rather an inference that i might achieve those yields if following that specific SOP.. i realize that the bark is always a variable factor but the bark powder source im using is said to be high yield according to multiple sources. my ex gf claimed she was getting 4-5% from that same source, but she is no longer a trustworthy source of any information unfortunately.
That's unheard of. Even over 3% in the study is suspicious. Keep in mind they were only using 5g samples. One theory is they selected the perfect layer of bark and it would be pretty easy to do that with 5g vs 100g. Their sifting technique also could have concentrated desirable particles.

As far as I can tell, the rotovap was only used as an analytical tool to quantitatively separate the solvent from the solute. It's a repeatable way to get a measurement, would be good for g2x666's 10+ batch experiment. But if you don't need that kind of data, it's not necessary and certainly doesn't increase the yield.
 
That is a ghetto build lol. I'm impressed, but those adhesives and sealants have gotta be susceptible to heptane vapors. The gaskets in the pump itself are surely susceptible to heptane vapors, so this will be an interesting experiment how long the pump lasts doing this.

Ultrasonic passes through glass. I don't think researchers are actually rawdogging their reactions in the ultrasonic basin. Usually people just place their vessel in the bath.
Yeah I have been playing around with different ways to do it. The lye doesn't bother the gaskets or stainless, and I don't do anything vacuum with heptane in the ultrasonic tank. Also the last vacuum pump I had ran nitric acid fumes ( nitrogen dioxide, Instantly rusts any steel on contact) through it quite a few times and the actual electric motor took a shit before the pump ever failed. I'm not worried about some heptane tbh. It definitely is a little ghetto tho lmao but that's just me messing around with shit I have on hand for the time being, once I have it figured out how I want it I'll get new parts and do it properly (probably after this set up fails). Also there are no real.gaskets inside this kind of vacuum pump, just the one that seals the oil from leaking out really. They use little plastic pieces that slide in and out while the shaft spins inside of an eccentric circle, the pump itself is surprisingly durable. It's the motors on these things that tend to shit out. But it was 50 bucks on temu lmao so I'm not worried, plus I'll just rebuild it when something does break.

On a side note I did get my rotovap set up but had to make my own sealing tube that covers the spinning glass tube so it's also a little ghetto lmao but hey as long as it functions properly I'm happy. Gonna use my ultrasonic cleaner as the water bath and have a ultrasonic rotovap lmao it'll be an interesting experiment also
 
This is what I've been using for the heptane and naptha evap, and I use anther jar for a cold trap before it hits the pump (not cause I'm worried about the pump mostly cause I want to reuse solvent lmao). And just for fun a picture of my rotovap with the basic vacuum distillation set up hooked up to my ghetto but surprisingly functional receiver tube. If you can't tell I just kinda like building shit (professional welder/ Fabricator) so experimenting with various tools and equipment is as much fun as smoking the spice for me lol. And I use shit I already have as much as possible, hence the homemade tube instead of paying 400 for the glass one off eBay. 165 bucks in all together for the rotovap and distillation kit, can't beat it lmao
 

Attachments

  • 17923478308967230183731861745918.jpg
    17923478308967230183731861745918.jpg
    1.3 MB · Views: 1
  • 17923478998528044299132660321241.jpg
    17923478998528044299132660321241.jpg
    1.2 MB · Views: 1
Back
Top Bottom