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Important discory made today for those who inject their dmt

Marbuckle

Rising Star
I don’t know if anyone else has ever experienced this before while injecting TNT but on occasion it’s almost as if the DMT feels attack and is defending itself from you and your mouth begins to fill with small little pebbles becomes a hard to breathe and you have to hook a Lougee in one way or another Just choked and the first time it happens is beyond scary and forces you to race respect and fear the limits of your future use however, after recently learning about the Japanese scientist whom speaks nicely to its water when making crystals and crystals become beautiful when he does and when he’s speaking badly, the crystals look mean or something like that For whatever reason, it inspired me to have a conversation with the DMT when it was defending itself from me. My mouth began to fill saliva and little pebbles and I couldn’t breathe without spitting and I kind stop breathing for relaxed, express gratitude and thank the DMT for letting me visit and for visiting me , and really kind of introduced myself to it and it’s slowly moved it attack sideways and off of me and no joke. The visualizations that were turning approached me closer and closer and closer almost to come by to kiss me on the cheek or some sort of expression of love , and I thanked it carried on and my mind is blown now and I can’t quite express how incredible this made me feel and not sure exactly what to do with my new knowledge except for share to help others who may experience this. It was a very powerful experience i felt the community should be aware of and will really help out relationship with this wonderful lifeform flourish. Mahalo from hawaii
 
I didn’t realize there were rules to how we experience this. We are not supposed to do anything. We choose to do whatever we want to do and deal with the results of those cjoices. If you choose to smoke it good for you, my asthma doesn’t appreciate when I smoke it so I choose this method, which by the way is 10 times more enjoyable in my experiences
 
I didn’t realize there were rules to how we experience this. We are not supposed to do anything. We choose to do whatever we want to do and deal with the results of those cjoices. If you choose to smoke it good for you, my asthma doesn’t appreciate when I smoke it so I choose this method, which by the way is 10 times more enjoyable in my experiences
I did not mean to come across in the whong manner, I have a small vocabulary and sometimes may sound condescending but I do not mean to be friend!

One love
 
A couple key points from me here..

@Ozzy_Chronik What do you mean by "supposed to"? I don't see why there's anything wrong with IV (when using actual PURE DMT).. it has a huge stigma attached to it due to being the favoured ROA for a number of addictive substances.. and as Marbuckle said, you bypass any complications with your lungs. You also bypass the issue of vaporization technique so its easiest to make the absolute most of your dose, provided you know what you are doing.. and if you don't then DO NOT do it.

I can see why injecting would be the preferred method for some. If performed properly with a pure substance, it is perhaps the cleanest way to consume a drug. Being that DMT is generally non addictive, I think we should think twice before casting judgement on this ROA..and especially on those who choose it.

That said, it can also be VERY DANGEROUS, as I will outline below.

Most of us are using DMT extracted from plants.. which are almost never pure enough to deem safe for IV. There are some very serious issues here you should consider. With an extract you've made yourself, there is the almost unavoidable presence of plant contaminants (even if trace amounts).. and secondly chemical contaminants from the extraction process. If using crappy quality lye or naptha from your local hardware store, how do you know there aren't trace amounts of impurity present?... if you are using your own extracted DMT, I'd be very very sure that the chemicals/solvents used analytical grade. Extracts with unknown plant impurities or impurities from shitty quality hydrocarbons should not go in veins. Unless you have access to GCMS or some other analysis, I'd suggest holding off on proceeding further with this ROA. Or are you using synthetic DMT Marbuckle?

Based on some of the physical effects you mentioned, I would very seriously consider them possible side effect of impurities. Not saying they are, but you should do your best to rule that element out of the equation before you conclude any spiritual phenomena. Synthetic DMT is recommended for IV use.. even then.. be sure its pure.

Be safe!
 
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@acacian I was under the impression that general administration is to be smoked.
I've never heard of anyone loading up a spike with DMT. Never seen any thing about it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but In my head, traditionally it's supposed to be smoked. Is it not?
 
@acacian I was under the impression that general administration is to be smoked.
I've never heard of anyone loading up a spike with DMT. Never seen any thing about it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but In my head, traditionally it's supposed to be smoked. Is it not?
All of the Strassman and DMTx trials were done with IV DMT. When you say traditionally your referring to the common lore around the substance that all of us internet hippies follow. Medical trials are usually done with pure synthetic IV DMT.. as I pointed out above its a bad idea to inject DMT into your veins if it is extracted from plants - but if using confirmed pure synthetic DMT and you know how to safely use a needle then no critique is warranted IMO. Such critique would likely be based on negative stigma.

For most of us here, IV is probably a very bad idea.
 
A couple key points from me here..

@Ozzy_Chronik What do you mean by "supposed to"? I don't see why there's anything wrong with IV (when using actual PURE DMT).. it has a huge stigma attached to it due to being the favoured ROA for a number of addictive substances.. and as Marbuckle said, you bypass any complications with your lungs. You also bypass the issue of vaporization technique so its easiest to make the absolute most of your dose, provided you know what you are doing.. and if you don't then DO NOT do it.

I can see why injecting would be the preferred method for some. If performed properly with a pure substance, it is perhaps the cleanest way to consume a drug. Being that DMT is generally non addictive, I think we should think twice before casting judgement on this ROA..and especially on those who choose it.

That said, it can also be VERY DANGEROUS, as I will outline below.

Most of us are using DMT extracted from plants.. which are almost never pure enough to deem safe for IV. There are some very serious issues here you should consider. With an extract you've made yourself, there is the almost unavoidable presence of plant contaminants (even if trace amounts).. and secondly chemical contaminants from the extraction process. If using crappy quality lye or naptha from your local hardware store, how do you know there aren't trace amounts of impurity present?... if you are using your own extracted DMT, I'd be very very sure that the chemicals/solvents used analytical grade. Extracts with unknown plant impurities or impurities from shitty quality hydrocarbons should not go in veins. Unless you have access to GCMS or some other analysis, I'd suggest holding off on proceeding further with this ROA. Or are you using synthetic DMT Marbuckle?

Based on some of the physical effects you mentioned, I would very seriously consider them possible side effect of impurities. Not saying they are, but you should do your best to rule that element out of the equation before you conclude any spiritual phenomena. Synthetic DMT is recommended for IV use.. even then.. be sure its pure.

Be safe!
No I harvest my own bark and extract my dmt personally. I could go into more detail about my experience and how i am sure this had nothing to do with impurities as I was able to simply make the negative side effect completely stop by simply using Masaru Emoto’s crystal growing strategy and sure enough it fucking worked and has completely changed my level of respect and gratitude I have for this incredible life form that DMT truly is.
 
This effect is described here in the nexus from time to time, and is referred to as the throat marble, it is something I have experienced myself with high doses of vaporized dmt, I personally think it’s the saliva and the bubbles in there that creates this very strange sensation.

Anyway I have the feeling it’s a rather benign effect. On the injecting i think it’s safe when done with clean dmt and clean injection practices, both are difficult for amateurs to do wel and prevent the obvious damage that can occur. Stay safe 🥰
 
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