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EauPrecieuse

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Hello, well.. I'm trying to breakthrought but it's really impossible.

I do the method of extract STB, then I got aprox 900mg of DMT wich I try to consume in different way. ( Oil pipe, Vape with PG, Weed vape ). My dosage come from 10 to 60, at 60 the effect are strong, it's hard for me to moove, also I see all the object in my room like if they was coming really fast to me, and everything swells, but no CEV, I can see somes really little visual but in my mind, they are not here, I can't see them, but I can imagine them.

I take the biggest breath I can, and keep it 15-20 seconds in my lungs.. Any idea ?

Have a good day, ps : sorry for bad english, i'm french ^^
 
I think your English is great :)

DMT is a weird molecule; sometimes the more one wants a breakthrough the harder it is for them to achieve it.

You could also have a natural resistance and may need more.

Finally, dialing in your method to effectively and efficiently vaporize the spice takes practice. Maintain patience and keep working on if.

One love
 
Do you take any medications?
Have you had a strong psychedelic experience before?
Do you vaporize and inhale an entirety of your dose?

In my case and for most of my circle, once vaporizing technique had been mastered, we had no trouble reaching any desirable level of experience including BT. There are couple of exceptions though, both with drug abuse history, who no matter what can't get there, all they get is very slight visuals, slight nausea, dizziness and feeling sleepy.
 
Voidmatrix said:
I think your English is great :)

DMT is a weird molecule; sometimes the more one wants a breakthrough the harder it is for them to achieve it.

You could also have a natural resistance and may need more.

Finally, dialing in your method to effectively and efficiently vaporize the spice takes practice. Maintain patience and keep working on if.

One love

I'm gonna try a new practice the next week, thanks for your reply
 
Exitwound said:
Do you take any medications?
Have you had a strong psychedelic experience before?
Do you vaporize and inhale an entirety of your dose?

In my case and for most of my circle, once vaporizing technique had been mastered, we had no trouble reaching any desirable level of experience including BT. There are couple of exceptions though, both with drug abuse history, who no matter what can't get there, all they get is very slight visuals, slight nausea, dizziness and feeling sleepy.

I do not take any medication, just I started microdosing 1CP-LSD today, and I didn't inhale the whole dose at one, maybe 2-3 hit, but next time i'll try to inhale everything in one only hit. Also I was abusing drugs with really high dosages but like +7months ago, I was taking all types of psychedelics, and dosage was like ( 800-1000ug without tolerance of LSD ) but I stopped everything now, sinces months.. Then I should be good?

I really want to breakthought, even with my drug history ( it was only psychedelic, nothing like heroin, cocaine, etc.. )

I'm gonna try a thing called " The Machine "
 
EauPrecieuse said:
I do not take any medication, just I started microdosing 1CP-LSD today, and I didn't inhale the whole dose at one, maybe 2-3 hit, but next time i'll try to inhale everything in one only hit. Also I was abusing drugs with really high dosages but like +7months ago, I was taking all types of psychedelics, and dosage was like ( 800-1000ug without tolerance of LSD ) but I stopped everything now, sinces months.. Then I should be good?

I really want to breakthought, even with my drug history ( it was only psychedelic, nothing like heroin, cocaine, etc.. )

I'm gonna try a thing called " The Machine "

I was going to recommend the machine, but seems you are already on it. I personally can vouch for it, because 1) it's dirt cheap and easy to make 2) it works.

Regarding number of puffs - I think it is commonly agreed here, that it is better to try to consume the dose in as few hits as possible, ideally one hit. Don't have big delays between hits, like breath out, breath in some fresh air, breath out and go for next hit. Some even skip the fresh air part.

I can speak from personal experience that you don't even need 2nd hit most of the times (maybe just to kill the reamins of the dose in the bottle) and 3rd is quite challenging to do, you need someone helping you with it most of the times. Trick to lessening number of hits required is to control your inhale during the toke and do it as slow as possible, while maintaining the vapourization.

Regarding your previous use history - I simply don't know exact answer to this. I haven't been able to find strong proof of correlation between "not able to BT" and "drug use history" yet. It is jsut what I think might be related to DMT sensitivity. I think LSD is known to have the biggest potential for HPPD symptoms post-use among entheogens, but it is very individual. Some can take years of high doses and brush it off as nothing, others get residual tracers after couple of LSD experiences. It is also impossible to tell now whether drug you took was actual LSD or some of it's derivatives.

Regarding time needed for brain to recover - it might be more than months required. From anecdotal evidences, it might take a year or more to fully "recover" or get to previous "normal".

I can also offer following information - of course drug tolerance levels greatly differ between individuals, but for my circle the dose you needed to cross BT treshold was 25-30mg commonly. Some individuals were able to take more than 40 and stay awake, but these were more like exceptions, rather than average. I think I did slightly more than 40 on purpose just once and it was my last DMT trip 😁
When you mentioned you tried 60mg - from personal experience, it is not easy to consume so much DMT typically, so might it be that you are burning some of the DMT? What does your smoke taste like, is it harsh/burning to the throat?
 
i think most people struggle at first. for me the first breakthrough was all thanks to changa/EL. i still prefer that method, mostly because pipes are easier to handle than glass when the world starts to rip itself apart.
 
Quite often the problem is your apparatus. I find that a Vapor Genie plus a good blowtorch lighter helps a lot. I also take a couple of deep breaths before hitting the pipe, breathe all the way out then take a huge hit in.
 
I have always used very small dab rig dedicated for DMT while having sitter present for safety. Following the same technique for dabbing shatter/wax/etc. Heat a banger with a torch until it’s red, wait 1 minute 15 seconds (timing depends on your equipment and needs to be dialed in) then drop in your dose and inhale. I am on my way out immediately. My first breakthrough was using this method and also my first time using DMT. I have tried many different methods over the years and this is by far the most consistent for me and my partner.
 
PedroSanchez said:
Voidmatrix said:
Since we're discussing different tools for vaporizing DMT effectively I feel I have to share the Divine Tribe v4 Crucible again.

One love
is that basically like a vape modified to do the emesh method, only without the modification?
if so, you have my attention :)

Apologies my friend. I somehow missed this.

However, the set up is great. It's a quartz crucible. One simply needs to load their SMT into the crucible place the top/mouthpiece back on, give a good preheat, inhale, happy travels :twisted: I seriously love it and I think that's why I mention it so much here.

One love
 
ChefNic said:
I have always used very small dab rig dedicated for DMT while having sitter present for safety. Following the same technique for dabbing shatter/wax/etc. Heat a banger with a torch until it’s red, wait 1 minute 15 seconds (timing depends on your equipment and needs to be dialed in) then drop in your dose and inhale. I am on my way out immediately. My first breakthrough was using this method and also my first time using DMT. I have tried many different methods over the years and this is by far the most consistent for me and my partner.

I used to dab as well and do find it highly effective once dialed in. There is a member that actually uses a tea light candle to heat their banger before takeoff. If I can find the post I will share it.

One love
 
1cp-lsd is not good... I have taken it 2-3 times, it is very different from actual lsd. These research chemicals are rather problematic, we know almost nothing about them and they are being sold just because they are still "legal". So... avoid research chemicals! also, frequent lsd use can increase tolerance for DMT. You can try to use harmala to help lower the breakthrough threshhold. You can do an extraction if your stomach cannot handle the tea. You can either take the harmala salts sublingually, wait for 30-40 min and then do DMT, or you can vape the freebase and do DMT right after.
 
Voidmatrix said:
PedroSanchez said:
Voidmatrix said:
Since we're discussing different tools for vaporizing DMT effectively I feel I have to share the Divine Tribe v4 Crucible again.

One love
is that basically like a vape modified to do the emesh method, only without the modification?
if so, you have my attention :)

Apologies my friend. I somehow missed this.

However, the set up is great. It's a quartz crucible. One simply needs to load their SMT into the crucible place the top/mouthpiece back on, give a good preheat, inhale, happy travels :twisted: I seriously love it and I think that's why I mention it so much here.

One love

I can confirm that the DTV4 is a superb device for vaporizing the spice. Also, I have to thank you, Voidmatrix, for recommending this device - I got myself one of these based on your recommendation and I could not be happier.

I have a few remarks to add to that. First, I think the titanium cup works better than the quartz crucible, especially for doses above 30mg. With the quartz cup, I sometimes had problems getting all of the spice in one toke. Also, if you find the vapor unpleasantly hot, you might want to try the DTV4 in combination with a hubble bubble device.

Love,
Bob
 
unclebob said:
Voidmatrix said:
PedroSanchez said:
Voidmatrix said:
Since we're discussing different tools for vaporizing DMT effectively I feel I have to share the Divine Tribe v4 Crucible again.

One love
is that basically like a vape modified to do the emesh method, only without the modification?
if so, you have my attention :)

Apologies my friend. I somehow missed this.

However, the set up is great. It's a quartz crucible. One simply needs to load their SMT into the crucible place the top/mouthpiece back on, give a good preheat, inhale, happy travels :twisted: I seriously love it and I think that's why I mention it so much here.

One love

I can confirm that the DTV4 is a superb device for vaporizing the spice. Also, I have to thank you, Voidmatrix, for recommending this device - I got myself one of these based on your recommendation and I could not be happier.

I have a few remarks to add to that. First, I think the titanium cup works better than the quartz crucible, especially for doses above 30mg. With the quartz cup, I sometimes had problems getting all of the spice in one toke. Also, if you find the vapor unpleasantly hot, you might want to try the DTV4 in combination with a hubble bubble device.

Love,
Bob

Very happy to hear it! I can't take too much credit as I found it thanks to another Nexian :)

And thank you for your notes and observations. I think I'll have to try out the titanium cup. I never really considered it before because the quartz one had been working so well for me, but you've got me curious.

:love:

One love
 
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