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Improving Crystallization with Quartz?

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I've been researching different ways to tackle oiling out, which is a phenomenon that probably everyone experiences when freeze precipitating DMT. When DMT congregates densely in solution, aka supersaturation, it precipitates. But in addition to crystals there's almost always an oily coating, sticky film, nodules of goo, or entire zones of slushy material. This could be due to oiling out, aka liquid-liquid phase separation.

I think we see it a lot with freeze precipitation because we're taking big steps from room temperature when we put the non-polar solution in the fridge or freezer. It's a quick and dirty way to squeeze the spice out, but a rapid cooling rate can push the supersaturation too high, where I think oiling out becomes a regular occurrence.

Another issue is leaving the solution stagnant. Leaving it in a cupboard to slow evaporate, or in the fridge / freezer. The solvent can develop zones of supersaturation, particularly around crystals as they grow. It happens when the crystals create deadzones around them, where natural diffusion isn't keeping up with the traffic of solute molecules. When traffic gets too congested the system can collapse into a liquid droplet.

The liquid separation causes secondary issues, like dissolving small amounts of solvent and impurities. These contaminant molecules can lower the freezing point of the DMT liquid droplets, so that even if they appear solid when frozen, they melt at room temp and take a long time to dry. The liquid droplets can also coat growing faces of the crystals, halting crystal growth (potentially accelerating liquid separation).

Generally the strategy has been to keep things as still as possible, to try not to disturb the delicate process. But perfect stillness seems to enable oiling out, so where can we compromise? We must introduce some kind of circulation. I read that even just keeping half of a flask on a warm surface and the other half off is enough to create a gentle circulation across the temperature gradient.

What about quartz?!

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I found a suggestion on reddit to try a quartz clock mechanism with continuous motion. I was really excited to try this because it's such a simple $10 device. It measures the vibration of tiny quartz crystals to track time and "ticks" sixteen times per second, creating a visibly smooth motion. I bent the second hand sweep into the ugliest and lightest stir rod, and connected it to the mechanism through a hole I drilled in a canning jar lid. It sweeps through the solution much more slowly and gently than other mechanical stirring methods I'm aware of. And I think it actually made a difference!

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I really want to decant the jar, evaporate the solvent residue, and look under the microscope to see how much liquid DMT there is relative to other extractions. But I noticed the solvent is evaporating through the hole I drilled for the mechanism, so I'm doubling down to see if the perceived effect persists while more DMT comes out of solution. In theory I should be past the danger zone and growing slow enough, with enough circulation, to precipitate the rest without oiling out.

So far I'm basing my excitement on the fact that a lot of DMT has crystallized already at room temp, and the crystals look well formed. I'm not entirely sure how I'm getting crystals out of solution without lowering temp, but it's been happening for me lately even before this quartz trial. Previously, I got less crystals and a good amount of oiling out by this point. More crystals this time, with everything else being the same, is a good sign that the extra crystals I'm seeing are from DMT that was prevented from oiling out. If this holds up during evaporation, or during rapid cooling, this could be a game changer for home extractors.
 
I guess that is better thing to go into a shop to buy than my idea of some sort of vibration device. Though my vibrator ideas were for helping separate the naphtha from the Base Soup.
 
If your solvent is saturated enough you will see crystallization at room temperature. Ive found that slowly cooling the solvent by letting it sit at room temp, then moving to the fridge, then freezer over a slow period of time helps with crystal developement. The slower you cool down your solution the better the crystal developement.

As for condensation its important to use a tight fitting lid. I use the little pyrex dishes from walmart/target that have a snap seal and then put a layer of foil in between so the solvent doesnt react with the plastic. Although small mason jars are commonly used as well due to giving the solvent more depth allowing for concentrated crystal developement with less surface area. Sometimes people will take a small crystal from their extraction and seed the container before hand to help promote nucleation/crystal growth.

Placing the container in front of a cool fan has resolved the condensation issue for me in hot high humidity climates with very little to work with in terms of the situation i was living in at the time. Ive had a lot of DMT redissolve on me due to condensation from high ambient temperatures. Once you see the condensation dissappear immediately cover it with a paper towel and a rubber band or a piece of foil with holes poked in it and place back in front of the fan.

Someone bumped the freezer on the first couple pics because i was in a punk house with a lot of activity using heptane to re-x from naptha and the 3rd picture was just old recycled naptha and then the same naptha to re-x because I didnt have anything else at the time for that extraction.


Keeping your pulls closer to room temperature also helps with minimizing oily residues in my experience
 

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If your solvent is saturated enough you will see crystallization at room temperature. Ive found that slowly cooling the solvent by letting it sit at room temp, then moving to the fridge, then freezer over a slow period of time helps with crystal developement.
That’s the thing, i’m doing my pulls at room temp, no heating or cooling the solvent before or after. And I don’t think I’m even saturating the solvent that much. Filtration seems to trigger nucleation for me. I haven’t done a side-by-side yet without filtering, but a seemingly stable solution at rest, passed through the filter, starts crystallizing within minutes.

Good tips in general though.
 
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