Interdimensional images . . . >

[fluidfocus]

Looked thoroughly, don't see anything noteworthy. Sorry friend.

 

[synchronoise]

I think you are taking this a little too seriously to be honest. I get why you are excited, I really do, because I've experience some extremely bizarre things, including things of this countless times. But to be "110% absolutely positively" about your conclusions of what is going on seems very premature. Besides, we have to at least be open to what others have to say, or else what is the point posting? This is the nexus and differing opinions are a dime a dozen even if some of the time we collectively acknowledge no one really knows for sure.

How can i be 110%. OK, it's going to be hard to swallow for anyone. I would not come on here to share it with fellow travellers if i was unsure or full of it for that matter. i have better things to do.
But anything i tell you about my experience is just going to make me sound like an oddball, especially on the internet. You don't see my body language, facial gestures and personality etc.

But i know for sure because of a visitation. why me, i haven't a clue. These were not deceased relatives and it was nothing in a physical form. It's been around me for a while and is here now (yes now i sound as mad as a hatter)

I've been watching it on and off for years. in the past it was a slight shadow, movement that caught my attention. and at times i could even watch it. For years it looked like shimmering moving air, almost like heat rising but not as obvious.

Very Recently, the thing i have been seeing around me appeared but this time it wasn't something i just saw in my peripheral vision. It filled the hole room. Apart from being gob smacked and beside myself i could see it clear as day. Best i can describe is some sort of energy. It was clear but had color and form. I could see into it, i could see it flowing. Basically like a very gentle delicate almost plasma but not quite. hard to describe. i watched it and could see it was different colours at different points in the room.

As i was watching it in wonder i thought i could see a young woman sat down on a chair in my kitchen. Now when i say i thought i saw a girl it's because she was almost invisible, this is going to sound far fetched but think "cloaking device" that sort of thing you see on the predator movie. I could see her like if i were looking through a membrane but never the less, she was there.
The moment i noticed her i put my hand out to touch her (first instinct i suppose) when i reached my hand out she turned around with a wink and a smile, stood up, put her both hands on her heart then pretended to faint by putting another hand up to her brow and fell backwards in slow motion then vanished into some kind of information void. again, very hard to describe an energy.

Never in my life had i ever experienced anything like it. left me stunned and baffled and lots of questions like, Really, did i just experience that. I won't go into the inns and outs but there were very prominent life changing things followed in the following days. Yes involving communication, not with her but for want of a better word, other entities. And their here now as i type and apparently have always been around.

So there, i hope this explains why i'm adamant about my 110%.

And the photos, you will see it. it's vast and mind boggling. now I've also said it's not easy to view at first. Why? because each image is super imposed and made out of other images. For example > five faces will make up one face. the brain doesn't know where to focus because it's constantly being lost in the morphing affect. But please if i may, just trust me. there are inter-dimensional beings by the bucket load. it's mind blowing. maybe take a copy of a picture home and take your time. go back to it every once and a while. I promise you it is there and i'm holding my hands in the air and saying YES! or i'm gone totally insane and have lost the plot.

here you go, try this for size

 

[synchronoise]

it would also be a good idea to shrink the images down a little. i find that helps a lot.

 

[a1pha]

Have you considered this might be some type of psychosis? That is, something created by the mind?

You sound 100% convinced in your beliefs; so why come here and dismiss what others are trying to tell you? There is nothing in these images. You are searching for signal in the noise and I'm sorry to say there just isn't any. What do you want us to say?

 

[synchronoise]

Have you considered this might be some type of psychosis? That is, something created by the mind?

You sound 100% convinced in your beliefs; so why come here and dismiss what others are trying to tell you? There is nothing in these images. You are searching for signal in the noise and I'm sorry to say there just isn't any. What do you want us to say?

well it did cross my mind, but I'm also adamant and sticking to my guns because the people who have seen it can see it clear once their eyes have adjusted . . give it another shot. tell me what you see in my last post.

color, size, image . . and if you get back to me with a completely different perspective i'll book myself in today

 

[Koornut]

I can see them in that last picture, but I was looking for them so I'm not sure. When you experienced this were they static or dynamic?

EDIT: On the glass I mean.

 

[synchronoise]

Static, I'm very confident with my mental well being. nobody has ever brought it to my attention and most people who meet and know me think i'm a positive healthy person (head wise)
no underlying issues. but on the bright side, at last, someone saw it. like i said, these arnt going to jump out and say "hay look an alien" I'm very confident that a few more people will click and see and enjoy whats there. its just a matter of a little time.
If I'm wrong then there are some things to be addressed but I'm not worried because there are friends who see it and some who can't see shit.
would be nice if these images get enjoyed. and if I'm going nuts that'll be cool as well. i'll be seeing aliens everywhere. whats not to like

 

[Koornut]

Just remember that not everyone will see what you see, no matter how convincing it appears. Don't beat yourself up about that fact of the human condition.
It would be very cool if this turned out to be something, I would advise you to remain as critical as possible when you further explore this.
A good thing to be aware of :thumb_up: , it has plagued inquiry for centuries.

 

[instig]

I have specifically done my walls and ceiling my study with venetian plaster for this sole purpose...it creates a canvas for the mind.

The mind when under influence of psychedelics rips open the doors between the input and output and blurs them, this is magic of it all. it blurs lines with all circuits of the mind giving your consciousness a surge of creative insight.

When returning I try and review the setting and see how and why I perceived what I did. When you evaluate your thoughts/emotions/memories/mind state at the time and the influence of external setting it is quiet easy to see why you saw what you saw. I believe this is a major early step in integration.

I have also been exploring this with music and with some music theory understanding it is possible to see how certain phenomenon manifest.

 

[3rdI]

I cant see anything in those pictures beyond random noise, i have been looking at them for the last few days.

to me its clearly a pattern recognition issue. I think you need to knock all drugs on the head and think about this in a rational manner.

 

[universecannon]

Why is this any more interesting than the fact that we can all find faces and things in other pieces of wood/paintings/ink blots/clouds/windows/etc. all the time (or on psychedelics)? The faces you see in them are definitely not that obvious, since most of us cannot see much at all, and it takes quite a bit of creative effort on the mind to begin with - a well documented phenomenon that others have pointed out already. What is the point of focusing so much on this? What do you learn personally out of it? Where do you go from here with this?

I understand you had an interesting vision before all of this started happening, which must have been quite a shocking experience, but that can happen at times without psychedelics believe it or not. It has to many of us. I've been there and makes sense that your pattern recognition would be in overdrive after such an experience. Regardless of what the nature of the visions were...it doesn't mean they are living IN your window right now though. Skepticism is healthy my friend.

Be well

 

[Lichen]

In this image - I see Gappa: The Triphibian Monster. I first saw Gappa on the hit tv show "Red Dwarf" in the episode 'Meltdown'.

I didn't know what Gappa was at the time (I was probably only eight years old, to be fair) but after I saw your image, I did some googling to compare the figure I could see in your image, to the image of what I thought I could see in my mind.

Your image, looks just like Gappa. If you don't see Gappa in the image you saw; who is anyone to say, that the figures you saw and drew are the real interdimensional beings, but the ones I see are mere illusions?

I'm open enough to say that we are both wrong and that all we can see is the the result of apophenic phenomena I discussed earlier; I'm also open enough to say that we are both indeed seeing interdimensional beings. I am, however, going to be realistic - and consider that the most likely scenario is probably the most likely to be true.

Now, I can't draw what I see as well as you can - I tried, I can't do it; I couldn't draw to save my life - but I assure you that the figures I see within your imagery are rich, photographic and super detailed. Here are some crude knock ups I did in my favourite program, mspaint.

Here is an almost perfect image of what I can see (Gappa), next to the photograph you have posted:

Here is the accompanying video from my childhood - (6:03 to 6:13 is where all the fun is) - it's a good episode, for anyone who hasn't watched red dwarf before.

[YOUTUBE]

Who's to say that the animal I think the cloud most looks like, is more accurate than the animal you think the cloud most looks like?

Consider how extraordinary it is that our brains can do this, on the natch, without any sort of mental effort whatsoever - I don't think this is blase! I certainly don't shrug this off as a mere illusion; I certainly don't think of it as "just bullshit"; I think it is AMAZING and I love talking about it!

Most people would look at me sideways if I even suggested that I could see a rich tapestry of figures and ornaments in everyday textures and patterns; let alone, suggesting that they are akin to actual interdimensional beings who have broken through the existential veil to tantilise us in the murky static of our television sets or condensated window panes.

I think you should be proud that you can draw so vividly what you can see, I'd like to see how far this talent can go.

Here are some more pictures that describe basically what I can see - I by no means expect anyone to be able to see the same images I do.

In this same grainy image, I can see -as clearly as I could see Gappa: The Triphibian Monster- the front of a horse's long face, looking up slightly - with an angry goose's face superimposed over the top, like this:

I notice you also show different interpretations of the same images.

In post #15, you have a picture of what looks like a cross between Jesus of Nazareth, Hunter S Thompson and Ayman al-Zawahiri (this is just my interpretation, I promise I'm not trying to ridicule) - three people who I guarantee have never been associated together, but oddly enough have arguably been speculated to be interdimensional beings.

In post #16 you have shown a different interpretation of the same image, showing completely different figures - I would argue you are demonstrating a perfect example of the power of apophenia and paradoleia.

post #17 furthers this case even more.

Don't forget that the phenomenon you go on to describe in #17( seeing the cloaking-device girl could be a completely different phenomenon all together) - who's to say that what you saw wasn't some sort of true apparition? It certainly couldn't be described as apophenia.

I think you should consider yourself very privileged to have seen such an amazing 'apparition'. Whether it was a true apparition, a being from the external world, or whether it was the result of a highly active imagination will probably never be known - but either way, you should feel priviliged; some people - and this thread is testiment - see nothing at all.

I don't think you're insane or that you've lost the plot. Unless this is objectively affecting your life, or the lives of those around you, in negative ways then I feel a great disservice is being dealt to if you are being labeled, or if you label yourself, with some form of pathology.

Take this as a warning however- if you begin to believe you are insane or have lost the plot, expect the images and figures you are seeing to take a turn for the worst. If you begin to feel negative connotations about these images and apparitions- then you can expect a lifetime of hellscapes, demons, sinister figures and dark imagery that HR Giger could only dream of in his filthiest nocturnal emissions.

If you, however, see the enormous privilege it is to see such amazing things amongst everyday textures and noise, I believe you should transfer this ability into something constructive.

Pablo Amaringo (whom you are likely aware of), without any formal training, started to draw his visions from his experiences with ayahuasca - he is easily one of the most well known "visionary artists" today.

I have no idea if you have had any formal training, but I think your art shows great talent. Your huddles of everyday citizens -although at the moment, very basic sketches- remind me deeply of the richness found in much of Pieter Bruegel-the Elder's work:

I think our brains are amazing - so amazing that I feel we do ourselves a great disservice by explaining away the rich tapestries of our imaginations, as the supernatural.

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams

 

[synchronoise]

I cant see anything in those pictures beyond random noise, i have been looking at them for the last few days.

to me its clearly a pattern recognition issue. I think you need to knock all drugs on the head and think about this in a rational manner.

Well that's not going to happen. If you met me in real life and spent a little time getting to know me and were a qualified something or other then i might take your advice. It's not like I don't have the utmost respect for psychedelics and actually take good care of myself, I have a persona that everybody gravitates to so that in it's self has to qualify for something.


So tell me, how can i draw outlines around these, taking into account that it was from a film of a not so good quality phone and zoomed right in . . . really is this head noise . . . really ?

 

[universecannon]

I'm not saying it's 'head noise' exactly. I find this function interesting and the imagination is a conundrum and the mind an incredible thing.

We're just saying that entities are probably not trying to communicate with you through your window

You could do this kind of drawing of patterns in almost anything...

Is it really any more amazing than These Images? If so, why? Please take a long hard look, as we have all done so at your photos. There is no need to be so dogmatic in your position, nor is there any shame in admitting ones model of reality isn't 100% correct.

And to reiterate what I said earlier:

Why is this any more interesting than the fact that we can all find faces and things in other pieces of wood/paintings/ink blots/clouds/windows/etc. all the time (or on psychedelics)? The faces you see in them are definitely not that obvious, since most of us cannot see much at all, and it takes quite a bit of creative effort on the mind to begin with - a well documented phenomenon that others have pointed out already. What is the point of focusing so much on this? What do you learn personally out of it? Where do you go from here with this?

 

[3rdI]

yes, really, its just random pixelated noise, drawing dodgy outlined images around random noise is not impressive and proves nothing.

you clearly dont care what anyone else has to say about this issue and have ignored a very well documented phenomenon of the human mind.

 

[synchronoise]

Let's just say your correct. What i've been trying to express with enthusiasm has all been illusion some kind of subconscious fabrication.
Nice easy explanation. It works so we'll roll with that.

If this is the case and if convinced i'll hold my hands in the air and say Oops! My bad. Then, after a wallow in thought I would progress on with my imagination because if this is some kind of psychosis I welcome it with open arms. I feel great. Things that used to matter I don't give a fuck anymore. Fear has almost been totally eradicated, I feel energised and a lot more confident in my life journey. Spiritually thriving like never before. A strong belief in magic and enchantment etc etc. All in all I can't think of one thing I don't enjoy about my "psychosis" experience.

I hope this bubble never pops.

But at the moment, i'm still going with what i'm showing you.

 

[universecannon]

Lichen, LOL! I definitely see the horse image a lot more than anything else now. But instead of a gooses face I just see a horse comically sticking it's tongue out (with the gooses eyes being the horses nostrils).

synchronoise, I'm glad you're doing good. It doesn't sound like psychosis to me. Just a common function of the brain/imagination that you are obsessing with (and I don't pretend to know what the imagination 'is' ). It is interesting, especially on psychedelics when you can watch an endlessly rolling montage of scenes/faces/beings unfold in something as mundane as the grains of your closet door. But I think this says something more interesting about consciousness/imagination than the actual grains of the door...even if you see some of it still afterwards.

And, again -

Is it really any more amazing than These Images? If so, why??

 

[synchronoise]

Lichen, LOL! I definitely see the horse image a lot more than anything else now. But instead of a gooses face I just see a horse comically sticking it's tongue out.

synchronoise, I'm glad you're doing good. It doesn't sound like psychosis to me. Just a common function of the brain/imagination that you are obsessing with (and I don't pretend to know what the imagination 'is' ). It is interesting, especially on psychedelics when you can watch an endlessly rolling montage of scenes/faces/beings unfold in something as mundane as the grains of your closet door. But I think this says something more interesting about consciousness/imagination than the actual grains of the door...even if you see some of it still afterwards.

And, again -

Is it really any more amazing than These Images? If so, why??

Those images ? Hell yes, by a long shot . .

If there is one thing I'm known for by close ties (the very few) is that if i'm trying to get through persistently, adamantly and won't give way i'm correct. most other things i suck at and will openly admit. if i'm sure, i'll let you know sort of thing.
Learning to trust yourself is what the outcome is i think. learning to follow your instincts which have been cut off by heavy bombardment from bullshit laden with bullshit, and on top of that a lot more bullshit until you can't see anymore.

I trust myself to know, what i experience is real > in real time. There is no doubt in my mind what so ever.

 

[universecannon]

Well I guess we'll all just have to agree to disagree here, as there is no point carrying this on any further if you are not open to anyone else's perspective and are 100% dogmatic about your beliefs of what is going on.

I'll just leave this vision of jesus speaking to me through a dog here

 

[synchronoise]

Well I guess we'll all just have to agree to disagree here, as there is no point carrying this on any further if you are not open to anyone else's perspective and are 100% dogmatic about your beliefs of what is going on.

I'll just leave this vision of jesus speaking to me through a dog here

Hhahah! yes been doing the rounds a while that pic. The "fuck you jesus" comic strip is quite funny to you should check it out.
I'm going to leave my case alone for now anyway. The point of this was my excitement and curiosity what people thought. But now i guess thats not important and lessons learned.

It's still fun though. the whole concept of communication is worth it all. all hale the internet, electricity and odd balls alike.
What i'm saying is, i don't take anything seriously, although in the moment i can get carried away and that's the bit i enjoy.

It's all good and i'll probably be posting a lot more mind provoking weirdness whenever i can.