Introducing a friend to spice - Changa, Pharma or Straight?

[Trickster]

FOAF is interested in taking DMT. What SWIYs may recommend? It's going to be his first meeting with a psychedelic.

 

[gammagore]

Changa for sure.

Straight spice has that sharp knife effect to it.

Changa is alot more gentle and guiding.

Pharma is a hit and miss, till one finds there sweet spot.

 

[Big Inhale]

Changa because its easier to smoke a more natural looking substance as opposed to some yellow crystals.

 

[ghostman]

First changa, then if they're comfortable a straight spice journey so that they learn to tell what's what.

 

[universecannon]

hahahh whats a FOAF? Friend of a friend?

I vote CHANGA

 

[Madcap]

Anything but intra-rectally would probably be ok. But, I'd say enhance some herbs...something smooth like mullein.

 

[soulfood]

straight non fortified 1:1 dmt:caapi leaf.

It's the smoothest and most forgiving way to go about this molecule in my experience.

 

[Praline]

Shoot-one of my freinds (never did anything except pot) was introed to straight spice (albeit only 15 mg) and she did just fine..she said she was a little freaked out, but would def do it again..But yeah, I agree changs is a little more user-friendly for a first timer. You could prob get away with pharma,, maybe 100mg cappi extract and 20-25 mg spice..and if theyre not impressed ty again in a few days with 10mg more spice..

 

[nodice]

straight non fortified 1:1 dmt:caapi leaf.

It's the smoothest and most forgiving way to go about this molecule in my experience.

I feel this is the best way as well.
CHANGA

 

[ragabr]

Echo Changa

 

[Methtical]

I know this has probably been answered elsewhere, but is changa really that much gentler than straight spice? The thing with using the machine is that it is so intense and up in Your face that it can be offputting to a point. Is changa a more gradual transition into hyperspace? So many people are singing the praises of changa lately it really sounds like the next step in spice evolution so if someone could clarify the differences between straight machined spice and changa that'd be great.

Methtical

 

[obliguhl]

I know this has probably been answered elsewhere, but is changa really that much gentler than straight spice?

It is. Straight spice is very in your face:

WABAHM! uuuhh...uhh...uhhh......ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Changa is like a dimmer:

kschoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosssssssssschhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...hmmmmm... hmmmm....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

I'd also go with harmalas and spice. Or...i don'T know, the possible puking could be upsetting. MNaybe a straight spice dose is better because its just the way it is and I don't asee how you could not deal with it.

It might also depend on the dose. If you're giving a lower dose, changa is propably way better.
With a higher dose, it won't matter much because if you're there you're there...imho.

 

[Dorge]

changa....

 

[Trickster]

It might also depend on the dose. If you're giving a lower dose, changa is propably way better.
With a higher dose, it won't matter much because if you're there you're there...imho.

It is also SWIM's experience (quite limited) that at higher doses there is no real difference between straight spice and changa. Changa is easier to smoke and the comedown is sooo beautiful and longer lasting.

So, it is going to be Changa. SWIM's got some passiflora leaf infused with spice and caapi copy (1:1:0.16). Very affective for SWIM even at 25 mg.