JohnIce2 said:
I have gotten INTENSE VISUALS from 4g of MG Heavenly Blu seeds after taking one hit of keif (and being clean from Cannabis for 6 months prior, although, not being a everyday smoker and fasting from Cannabis until it all is mostly out of your system before hand can still produce profound effects).
I've never been able to obtain a true psychedelic state from morning glories...
Lysergic acid amide is a schedule three depressant, and was likely scheduled to deter its use as a precursor for LSD synthesis, and not due to any potential psychoactive effects...
Many of the other components of morning glory seeds were only shown to have depressant effects when ingested as pure compounds...
I've tried every type of active seed, I've tried pure extracts, and so on, and I've never been able to obtain much more than a fuzzy intoxication, maybe with some slight visual tracers or slightly enhanced colors, but it's an intoxication for the most part, and not anything that I would call psychedelic.
However, I constantly encounter reports psychedelic type effects induced from these seeds.
They are psychoactive, that's for sure, but psychedelic? I'm not so sure...
I'm very interested in how others are using these seeds as an entheogen, as all my attempts have failed.
(Most will say "you git the wrong seeds" or "you extracted the compounds improperly" and I can assure you that this is not the case, I was very thorough in my plant identification and chemical procedures, and have made numerous attempts with these compounds)
LA-111, LSA (lysergic acid amide) ergine, d-lysergamide. This is an active compound and has been established as a major component in morning glory seeds. It was assayed for human activity, by Albert Hofmann in self-trials back in 1947, well before this was known to be a natural compound. An i.m. administration of a 500 microgram dose led to a tired, dreamy state with an inability to maintain clear thoughts. After a short period of sleep, the effects were gone and normal baseline was recovered within five hours. Other observers have confirmed this clouding of consciousness leading to sleep. The epimer, inverted at C-8, is isoergine or d-isolysergamide, and is also a component of morning glory seeds. Hofmann tried a 2 milligram dose of this amide, and as with ergine, he experienced nothing but tiredness, apathy, and a feeling of emptiness. Both compounds are probably correctly dismissed as not being a contributor to the action of these seeds. It is important to note that ergine, as well as lysergic acid itself, is listed as a Schedule III drug in the Controlled Substances Act, as a depressant. This is, in all probability, a stratagem to control them as logical precursors to LSD. -tihkal;shulgin
I still love morning glory vines and love to grow them, I'm also fascinated by the lysergamide compounds they produce, and put a fair amount of research in there.
I would be happy to answer questions in this area, and I will try to use simple English as it appears the original.poster does nit speak English as a first language....
-eg
