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LoveTheUniverse

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Hey guys, thought I'd make an introduction before I get into asking questions.

I'm from Australia and have had some success with other psychedelics, both spiritually and with cultivation. I guess my specialty is shrooms, recently moving into Cacti. As with everyone I've had some great experiences with Mushrooms, LSD & Mescaline (and also some 'borderline' experiences heh) and I'm looking to move forward with DMT. From what people have described it initially it seemed to be a bit too intense for me but after some heavy Mescaline & Acid trips I feel I've layed down some solid ground work to becoming more of a true 'psychonaut'.

As with all Australians, there's a big problem with obtaining MHRB. With a bit of research and the help of people here I'm sure I've come across a perfectly legally and native source. Hopefully I'll update and pass on any knowledge to anyone else interested.
 
Fisrt off, your name is offensive so you may want to try & change it.


Second, No you will not find much help trying to get advice for anything illeagal here either!!!

Did you read the attitude page before OKing to it?
If not you should, there is a link to it at the top of most pages.

I'm going to lock this thread because you are blatantly asking for illegal advice.


WS
 
Hello mr. Universe,

Your name has been changed to something more appropriate.


I also think you worded your question a bit wrong. I think what you mean to ask is how to obtain active plants LEGALLY in Australia.

Only yesterday I heard one member talk about the 'Jam Wattle' or Acacia acuminata. It seems that it's abundant in western Australia and is reported to have an high alkaloid profile. Maybe you can check that out. Mind the environment though while doing your research.

A very good extraction guide for Acacia can be found here: The DMT Handbook


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
I think the name was taken out of context, that's all. Don't we achieve altered states to experience something beyond this material existence (or 'cosmic prison')?

Anyway, hopefully with the information I've received I should have some success. Also thanks for the heads up on the extraction guide, I will be surely checking it out.
 
Feel free to contact me regarding anything Mr Universe.

Swim has just done what you are trying to do.
 
Thanks, I will be going for a bush walk tomorrow to check out what the 'scenery' is like... I have 1 quick newb question before hand though, maybe someone can help me out. It says they flower from anywhere around July to October(?), being Feb will I be looking for the yellow wattle like flowers, or just identifying it by the other factors?
 
If the plant isnt flowering you cant go ID by that, so pay close attention to phylode sizes, leaf margins, total size of the bush/tree. All that. Do any gathering well off the beaten track and be respectful.
 
I thought that would be the case, it's just every picture shows the yellow wattle like flowers which would make things a bit easier. I'll have a file of references to take it all into mind. Of course, this will be done on untrodden paths, extremely deep into the valley/bush in dense areas. Will be respectful, hopefully I won't need to do anything too drastic.
 
They are not flowering at the moment.

The main two things you need to look for:
the leaves have a curved spike on the end
and the distinct shape of the tree, starts branching out right from near the bottom.
 


Could you help me with an ID? This is in the Avon Valley near Toodyay, the main problems I came across was, aside from not flowering, there were no pods, only those little seed like things as pictured on the right. I found 1 that seems like it still had some dying flowers on it.

I tried to ID it from the appearance of the trunk/main branches, it's a bit spotted, 'barks' near the soil. Appears the same as any non flowering picture I've seen, the leaves are the same and when cut open it wasn't "raspberry jam"-like but maybe sort of sweet smelling.

These are fucking everywhere though, like fields of them. I didn't kill one, I got plenty of bark from digging around the roots and stripping some. Might make them unhealthy, but there's a lot of strong roots and these are big like trees.

Any opinions would be appreciated. I'll start getting my shit together for the extraction today.
 
For an ID swim really needs photos of the leaves and flowers, since this isnt flowering right now the leaves are important but there are only pics of the overall bush. It looks the right shape and it is an acacia but if those are seed pods in the 5th picture then this isnt what you're after. Look for very narrow phylodes (leaves).
 
The first 3 pics are acuminata, nice find.

Why use root bark when you have the leaves and bark, no need to disturb the roots.
 
1-3 are acuminata, and i think 6 is too.

I also found what appears to be acuminata, without the "pods" and instead those big ugly seed things.

Everything about it matches acuminata except for that. the leaf pattern, size, hook on the end, shape of tree, etc.


Swim's Extraction did yield DMT. But havent got a really big yield yet. (refining technique)
 
Ah, great!! The leaves are one thing I could identify, you're right though, that one tree on the right does look a bit off... Checking back in comparison to the pics I identified from it looks good.

Acacia Acuminata - "Up to 1.5% alkaloids, mainly consisting of tryptamine in leaf" <- I did read this but haven't heard of any reports yet. I'll give it a try when I have my first successful extraction. Though, the availability to these trees is ridiculous so I should go back in a few weeks and hopefully experiment.

Thanks guys, while I'm here I've come across some trouble with my first extraction... It looks fine in the freezer but after I scrape it all up it turns back to some orange oily stuff. I came across another thread mentioning this so I was thinking of doing the double extraction next time.. However, is there going to be any use for what I've got at the moment?

I wasn't sure about those seeds but I literally could not find one pod even checking the ground so I assume it's still the Acuminata. Couldn't even find flowering pics on google maps, it's been a bit of a hassle but hopefully it's paying off.

Cheers again, appreciate the help!
 
Welcome to the Nexus...you seem to be a valuable member taking your experiences into consideration...don't get me wrong we all are valuable:D that's not what I meant but you are really making this a life hobby with the psys...keep exploring and don't forget to share;)
 
LoveTheUniverse said:
7 It looks fine in the freezer but after I scrape it all up it turns back to some orange oily stuff. I came across another thread mentioning this so I was thinking of doing the double extraction next time.. However, is there going to be any use for what I've got at the moment?
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If you saw white crystals.. then what you have left is probobly dmt n-oxide or dmt dissolved in plant oils.

Either way its active.!

What i would suggest if you want crystals is to redisolve it in a bit of shellite (hot shellite), and refreeze (just a little bit of shellite).

Then when the crystals form again, pour off the shellite and keep the glass upside down with a bit of an opening so all the shellite pours out.. leave it like this for a good halfa n hour, then when you scrape it shouldnt go to goo.
 
Thanks maymay. At the moment it is quite an obsession but I'm hoping to make it a lifelong journey, maybe not to the extreme it is at the moment but not passing it off as a phase like some. Hopefully I can share some experience/knowledge in the future.

Eluna - I gave your suggestion a go this morning. I put the sludge in a shot glass, added some shellite and gave it a heat bath. The sludge didn't re-dissolve too well but it looked like at least some purity was dissolving into the the layer of shellite so I poured that into another shot glass (I guess similar to as mentioned in the DMT Handbook) separating/leaving the sludge behind. I added some more shellite to the sludge, heat bathed that and put both glasses in the freezer.

The glass I'd imagine containing the pure DMT/shellite started crystallising straight away, the sludge glass hasn't seemed to do much so hopefully all the oils were were separated (might enhance some leaf with it) and the other glass *should* be nice. I'll be checking it after work.
 
Yeah might be a bit of a lost cause for most of the crystals

what id do with the sludge is combine it again with some shellite, and then pour in some leaf material like say, parsley or you could even use mj if you wanted.

Then stick a fan at it and evap until you basically cant smell the shellite anymore

Then smoke material through a bong!

The leaf material will still be oily though.

I did this and it worked, on one of my first extractions when i did the same as you.
 
Evaporating the shellite off with a fan will cause more n-oxides to form but since they are in your smoking mix and still active its no big deal.

When freeze precipitating its important to after 2 days quickly open the freezer and pour off all the solvent you can, then leave it upside down and tilted to one side in the freezer to drain more without having the shellite drops heat up and dissolve your spice. Then take it out and leave it upside down with a fan running over it, this causes the condensation to run downwards and not into the curve of the dish and your main spice area, then turn it the right side up and sniff for solvent. Sometimes it doesn't even need fanning at this point. The less air you have running over your spice the whiter it will be.

n-oxide isn't soluble at all in shellite so remember that an a/b with a sodium carb wash leaves you with very clean spice so subsequent recrystalisations aren't needed, the oxide is active so just weigh out an amount of spice/oxide and dissolve in 99% IPA and infuse into leaf for use in a bong.
 
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