Is it feasible to hybridize the Lazyman's and Noman's STB Teks?

[KTX]

I'm looking at extracting MHRB and I'm leaning towards Lazyman's Tek because it doesn't use a ton of water and I could feasibly do 200g in one batch, but it involves evaporating the Naphtha and I don't want a bunch of gross solvent vapor in my house. I was also looking at Noman's Tek and like it because it used freeze precipitation instead of evaporation, but it calls for 3 liters of water for my amount of bark, and even more for the powdered bark I plan to use, which would mean I would have to go out and buy containers big enough to hold all the unrefined spice soup.

Both these TEKs involve creating a basic solution with lye and mixing MHRB into it, although Noman's calls for much more water. Would it be possible to use Lazyman's Tek up until the separation of Naphtha and DMT, and then when the DMT saturated Naphtha is created, put it in a jar and freeze precip it instead of evaporating?

I was trying to find more information about the saturation point of DMT in naphtha at room temp vs freezing, but I couldn't find much information about it. My fear is that, using the Lazyman Tek, the Naphtha solution wouldn't be DMT-saturated enough to freeze precipitate it. My admittedly basic understanding of chemistry is telling me that it should work in theory because DMT in Naphtha is DMT in Naphtha, but I just want to confirm with people who have some idea what they're doing before attempting this and wasting materials.
Is there a specific concentration of DMT in Naphtha that must be made to have any luck freeze-precipitating?
Additionally, since the solubility of DMT in Naphtha in a normal freezer is not zero, would it be worth it to do it in my deep freezer to get the solvent colder and hopefully precipitate more spice out?

Side question, why does Noman's use so much more water than Lazyman's? Just curious.

I tried to do my own research before asking this, hopefully I didn't miss an obvious thread with this exact question. If I did, apologies, and I'm sure the entities will punish me in due time.

Many Thanks, friends.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

I'm sure that someone will chime in with a more scientific answer. I use a tek I saw in an online video. I use an excess of Naptha and combine the 3 pulls.

My thought is that the amount of Naptha used to pull might have a bearing on it's saturation.

Anyway, my Naptha won't freeze precipitate much unless I evap it a bit until it turns slightly cloudy. Takes a short time in front of a fan and the fumes are hardly noticed if I do that in a corner of the basement. You can't smell it until you get close to it.

Then I freeze precipitate, pour off the excess, and evap the rest of the Naptha in my unattached garage.
End up with some crystals from freeze precip and some yellowy gooey powder from evap. Both go into Changa anyway.

(I make Changa out of the evaped stuff, just guestimating, then add white crystals if it's too weak)

 

[Sakkadelic]

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At room temp you can get around 3g of dmt to dissolve in 100 ml naphtha, at -20 C it drops to only 100 mg.

From 200g you can expect about 4g dmt, I would guess 150-200 ml naphtha would be good for freeze precip

 

[Transform]

There's always the option of backsalting into vinegar from the naphtha, then adding base and pulling back into a smaller volume of naphtha. Then you don't have to evaporate a ton of naphtha.


There comes a point when grasping the general principles of extraction will enable one to engage with these kinds of questions more confidently.

In this particular case, it would be helpful to you to write out both methods side-by-side in order to get a more direct comparison between them. Then you'll be able to average out some proportions that suit your envisaged requirements and get some feedback once we know what they are.

The other thing that springs to mind is that someone - I forget who exactly - trained a machine-learning model on all of the Nexus data, so if anyone out there could point us in the right direction for that, this would appear to be a suitable use-case.

Overall, this reminds me that an annotated spreadsheet of all the various methods and teks would make a useful tool, especially in combination with the physicochemical data mentioned in the preceeding post.