Is it safe to smoke DMT at the onset of the Pharmahuasca experience?

[Caesar]

I tried Pharma for the first time a few months back, and it truly was probably the best experience I've ever had in my life. That being said, I didn't come anywhere close to a breakthrough, although I did have some amazing realizations about life.

I weigh 205 lbs and took a dose of 150mg of DMT Fumarate. What if I smoke 30 to 50mg of dmt freebase when I feel the effects of the Pharma coming on? Is it safe to do that? I've heard that this helps you break through and you stay in that place for the rest of the trip, which usually lasts 3-4 hours.

Thanks in advance for the input!

 

[jamie]

wait till you are sure it is peaking or even just when the peak ends, then smoke. Otherwise you might regret it. 30-50mg is likely too much when you have already taken oral DMT and harmalas.

 

[Caesar]

Thanks for the tip. Also, since Harmaline HCL is needed for the dmt to be orally active, does it also prolong the smoked dmt effect?

 

[Vodsel]

jamie gave good advice.

since Harmaline HCL is needed for the dmt to be orally active, does it also prolong the smoked dmt effect?

It does, since the MAO enzymes are not only present in the gut but in the nervous system as well.

 

[Global]

Yes, I wouldn't smoke it during the onset. Well...I'll tell you how a typical pharma session goes for me. I ingest my harmalas, wait a lil' and then ingest the DMT. I wait for an hour to go by after ingesting the DMT, and hopefully around this point in time, if there is nausea present, it has built to a reasonable level where it can facilitate an easy and full purge. If the purge is sufficient, there won't be any nausea for the remainder of the experience. It is at this time that I then like to take my first round at smoking DMT. If I truly did have a complete purge, then this next part will proceed without a hitch, however if I still have some actives in my stomach, this first smoke will make me super nauseous and will usually facilitate another purge or the first one if I was unable to purge at first. That might just be me, but the nausea can get really intense if I haven't gotten everything up.

Now, since it will be synergizing with both the DMT that's already in your system along with the harmalas, you won't need nearly as much DMT as you would typically load up to most likely go further than you know imaginable. There is an ever-so-slight delay in onset when smoking on pharma (or anything with harmalas for that matter) so instead of the onset being instantaneous, it may be a delayed 15-30 seconds. The effects of the smoked DMT usually taper off around an hour or so leaving you back to wherever the pharma has you, at which point you can either decide you've had enough of that stuff, and you'll ride out the remainder of the pharma trip, or maybe you could go again and then you'll just have to reload your smoking device, take another hit or two and prepare for some insanity again. As the day goes on, the pronounced nature of the smoked DMT will diminish as the harmala action decays.