Is N-oxide to dmt freebase worth it?

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Do you think it is worth doing it everytime a person does pulls. Say SWIM did a STB and after four pulls he acidified the water to ph 3, then did his zinc dust thing, and rebasified the water and did a final warm naptha pull. It sounds like it would use alot of lye and vinegar, but those are both cheap so SWIM is wondering if it was worth it. Does MHRB contain alot of N-oxide along with N,N DMT naturally?

Also, after the naptha pulls are done, would swim get a reasonable amount of jungle spice for doing a couple xylene pulls? Waste not, want not.

 

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69ron I'm hopin to hear from you on this since it was your n-oxide to n,n DMT conversion tek that I read.

 

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Do you think it is worth doing it everytime a person does pulls. Say SWIM did a STB and after four pulls he acidified the water to ph 3, then did his zinc dust thing, and rebasified the water and did a final warm naptha pull. It sounds like it would use alot of lye and vinegar, but those are both cheap so SWIM is wondering if it was worth it. Does MHRB contain alot of N-oxide along with N,N DMT naturally?

One N-Oxide reduction is enough. Do it before freebasing. N-Oxides don’t form well in solution without an excess of oxygen.

How much N-Oxide is represent really depends. SWIM has had very old bark that contained almost entirely DMT N-Oxide. Fresh mimosa will have the least amount of N-Oxides. All bark has N-Oxides in it. The average bark probably has less than 10% of it’s DMT as DMT N-Oxide. It also depends a lot on the vendor and their suppliers. If they let their bark sit in the open for too long in hot weather, more N-Oxides will form. Leaves like chaliponga and chacruna usually have a lot more N-Oxides in them. Some times as much as 50% of the DMT is present as DMT N-Oxide. It can be a lot.

DMT needs to be in contact with oxygen to form DMT N-Oxide. At room temperature it forms slowly over the course of a few years. It forms faster as the temperature rises. You can convert all your DMT to DMT N-Oxide by heating the DMT to it’s melting point and blowing a fan over it. I think something like 1 hour is all that’s needed. I’m not sure about that though. I need to check on that. I saw a tech for it a while back. Another way to make it in a matter of minutes is by dissolving DMT in a mix of 30% hydrogen peroxide and ethanol (I forget the extract ratio).

Also, after the naptha pulls are done, would swim get a reasonable amount of jungle spice for doing a couple xylene pulls? Waste not, want not.

Yes, but if using an STB tech, it’s going to be really dirty.

 

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alright, thanks. yeah that makes sense to acidify the water and zinc it before you do any pulls. I'm don't think i'm gonna do an A/B extraction because STB is just to easy and simple, unless A/B is really alot more advantageous