jamie said:
I extracted 20g and I used a very different tek. I used no np solvent at all and did no defat step.
I took 20g of leaf and powdered it, and brewed it with vinegar and water as you would for ayahuasca. This tea was then left to decant a day or so later when it was clear and then filtered well through cotton. It was then reduced and then evaporated completely to a resin in a food dehydrator.
It was still a bit wet at this point, so I added in sodium carb and mixed it around(I did not need to add extra water, but you might if you dry it more). Once this was dry I powdered it up and did 3 pulls with very hot 99% iso..left each pull for a day shaking here and there and then combined all pulls. This was left to settle until clear, then decanted and thoroughly filtered. Then it was evaporated on low in the dehydrator.
What I ended up with was long tranluscent yellow crytals..they look almost like selenite..I have done this tek on mimosa before years back and it worked well but never gave me crystals. It yielded a red jimjam like stuff similar to the acetate converted spice..and was potent. Endless has done a sort of similar tek with mimosa though and gotten crystals. I was not expecting any kind of crystal from the chaliponga due to fats in the leaf..but I def have some oily yellow long crystals here..I dont have a mg scale but I would say w/e I pulled it was around 2%.
The real interesting part will be testing these crystal sublinugal at some point..I quidded some leaf a couple years back and I def felt something..so if I can take 10mg's sublingual of this stuff and still get some effects than that should def be some evidence that there is something in chaliponga that is active other than just the DMT. I think corpus posted early back in this thread of him doing this with crystal he extracted and it was active.
I had some chaliponga extract that I tried this on...it gave me black goo but I think that was because I basified a IPA extract instead of just straight leaves.
Anyways so I smoked a little bit and did not feel much so then I concocted some changa(w/syrian rue extract and caapi) out of the tar stuff and loaded it in the bong. I smoked a fairly large amount and there was hardly any visuals, just a weird body high and the taste of DMT except with a bit of a minty hint to it instead of the usual floral notes.
So the body high was somewhat enjoyable there fore I figured I would try again with a higher dose.
So I then smoked a very large amount of the goo on top of some caapi branches.....
This time it the body high became very intense yet there was still no visuals(CEV or OEV)...I felt a strange slight naseau that was unfamiliar feeling to me,
So about 8-10 minutes into the weird body high trip I decided to smoke some straight DMT.
I loaded about 15mg in the bong and smoked that, then laid back down again.
So I then experienced one of the more bizzare DMT trips of my life. The visuals were very unlike anything I had ever seen before, extremely intricate yet they did seem to lack the usual pronounced neon colors I am used to seeing. The body high became extremely overpowering at this point and I had to seriously fight the urge to assume a fetal postion.
It was dark but not really what I would call unfriendly or anything, just extremely and intricately bizzare. About 7 minutes of this detailed complex strangeness and then the visuals sort of fizzled out leaving this weird intense body high, like continual rushing.
at the 10-15 minute mark there was nothing but the weird psychedelic body high. At times it felt like I was dissolving and going into a hyperspace of sorts but a purely psychological one if that makes sense at all. It was like an emotional/existensial hyperspace with no visuals. The body high then faded but persistd to the 20 minute mark.
I also noticed that throughout the experience there was a considerable elevation of my heartbeat and circulatory activity that seemed much more forced and pronounced than when I am accustomed to with regular DMT. Although I was somewhat nervous it still seemed overly pronounced, even for being afriad.
The main thing that I did not like about it was that it definitely seemed to actively block the visual experience in some way. This may be because the body high is sort of over stimulating.
Sorry to add another subjective experience filled with speculation to this thread but until someone figures out what all is in this stuff all we really have to go on is reported experiences IMO.