Is There An Ayahuasca Plant Which Is Not Good For Extraction?

[brokedownpalace10]

Just as the title says. It seems that the powers that be would be less interested in a plant which would never be used for extraction purposes but that made a good Ayahuasca brew.

 

[Animistic]

Not really, Banisteriopsis alkaloids are easily precipped, Psychotria species can be extracted easily with standard a/b, probably same as Diplopterys. Hardest regular psych to extract meaningfully from I believe while still being viable is mushrooms. Extractions usually make something more viable to use rather than less.

 

[Transform]

Just as the title says. It seems that the powers that be would be less interested in a plant which would never be used for extraction purposes but that made a good Ayahuasca brew.

If you got a phalaris grass species with a consistent and clean alkaloid profile, that might be the one. Good luck with finding that!

 

[brokedownpalace10]

If you got a phalaris grass species with a consistent and clean alkaloid profile, that might be the one. Good luck with finding that!

Way back in the olden days of the Entheogen Review, I got a potent Phalaris clone and grew it in my garden. 5-Meo-DMT was legal at the time and I had a bunch of it.
I let the grass get a couple feet tall and ran it through a wheatgrass juicer as recommended. It worked and it was very clearly a 5-Meo-DMT effect.

At the time, all the literature did say that 5-Meo was what the Phalaris contained. I've done 5-Meo-DMT extensively and I'm not a fan. (Mostly the lower doses but a handful of breakthroughs and one A-bomb)

I got one more harvest which was weaker and then the patch became inactive. My theory is that it gets replaced or crossed with inactive grasses when growing "wild". Possibly one might need to grow it in a pot?

I took a ~20 year break from all drugs to raise my daughter. Missed the golden age of RC's, etc.. And now, here I am.
I find DMT to have some similarities with 5-Meo-DMT, but really it's totally different.


I remember back when I was a child growing up on a farm we had a couple hedgerows of Honey Locust. I'm watching for news on that. I'd never see the results myself because I'm an older guy, but just because.
We just got over a week of weather in the low teens here in December, so Acacia might be out.
I'm playing Johnny Appleseed with Desmanthus illinoensis and am watching for info on that. Once my plants, which are just getting numerous, have 4-5 years on them I'll check it out myself.
I grew Arundo donax for years, but DeKorne(?) said that turned out to be a wash as I remember. (Made great pipe stems and garden stakes)


DMT revealed itself to me when it did. Maybe Aya will do the same. Hopefully it won't happen right when the powers that be decide to get votes with lies, as they do.

 

[modern]

Older replaced dmt plants could fit your profile HOWEVER you will still need an maoi source. Seerseeker at higher doses may be worth while and can be purchased openly and readily online. There are many more plants that are lesser known that have been used as ayauhasca plants before being introduced to psychotria viridis.

Now not everyone likes to experiment blindly and there is always a risk that the plants have some toxins that does require caution. My seerseeker is struggling to grow but considering 1g had visual effects shows promise.

Another plant worth exploring is Fittonia albivenis which the same tribe that uses the seerseeker used this plant as well with caapi.

 

[Transform]

We just got over a week of weather in the low teens here in December, so Acacia might be out

Let's see: (11-32)×(5/9)= -16.7°C
Yes that is starting to look rather on the low side for most acacias from what I gather, unless you were able to plant them somewhere sheltered and wrap them up for those coldest weeks.