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Is this Jungle Spice? Would you use it? (Macro Pics inside)
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Parshvik Chintan
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i have yet to try dmt in its' crystalline form ;_;
so jealous....
so jealous....
Parshvik Chintan said:
I highly recommend extraction. It's very rewarding and really helps with connection to the experience. I've learned a lot as well.
For me though it's all about Changa - infused leaf. I've only tried vaping crystal once and I didn't have much luck. It's quite a technique without good equipment (Glass VP) from what I gather.
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This is an odd thread...
My first answer was "Well I'm not sure, there are many possibilities" and I don't know how any of you could state so blatantly conjecture-as-fact based on such little data.
It LOOKS like quite impure or even lye-water-TAINTED DMT from VM+P Naptha but it also looks like a few other things. It looks like: rather impure DMT-fumarate from d-limonene or xylene or very-impure fumarates from naptha. It looks like what I'm seen pictures of what is pulled by a 6%-94% (or something like that) mix of xylene and Naptha.
I'd be willing to wager that it is White-DMT + Some Orange Jungle DMT and/or Yellow DMT-N-OXIDE + some of the black lye-water
Now considering the solvent type was not mentioned at all then if it was some non-standard naptha with a different balance of chems in it (hopefully none of them toxic additives like the blue in some camp fuels) which make it less polar than typical naptha it could come out orange and be nearly pure.
Nonetheless, as I said my wager is that it is White-DMT + Some Orange Jungle DMT and/or Yellow DMT-N-OXIDE + some of the black lye-water
Now true: Lye will not vaporize at typical DMT-vaping temps but it would still be useful to know it is quite likely in the product. Whether to re-crystallize is up the the individual. Either with acetone or with (NEW) Naptha would work.
Sorry if this is "gruff" or grumpy sounding but during my time off I have learned a lot about REAL SCIENCE and I am beginning to appreciate how hard they have to work to get all their facts straight when doing experiments. Yes there are numerous times when there are oversights due to carelessness which have caused terrible things but it has brought us computers, rocket science, all types of physics. In medicine, however corrupt the system may be it has CURED completely dozens of diseases like Polio, Rhubella, Smallpox, Mumps, Measels which would KILL children and adults in staggering numbers.
Well I'm not going to keep ranting but honestly, lets keep people safe by stating facts when we know the facts and stating opinions when we are not sure. It is good for safety, it is good for the community, it is good science!
Cheers, much love
My first answer was "Well I'm not sure, there are many possibilities" and I don't know how any of you could state so blatantly conjecture-as-fact based on such little data.
It LOOKS like quite impure or even lye-water-TAINTED DMT from VM+P Naptha but it also looks like a few other things. It looks like: rather impure DMT-fumarate from d-limonene or xylene or very-impure fumarates from naptha. It looks like what I'm seen pictures of what is pulled by a 6%-94% (or something like that) mix of xylene and Naptha.
I'd be willing to wager that it is White-DMT + Some Orange Jungle DMT and/or Yellow DMT-N-OXIDE + some of the black lye-water
Now considering the solvent type was not mentioned at all then if it was some non-standard naptha with a different balance of chems in it (hopefully none of them toxic additives like the blue in some camp fuels) which make it less polar than typical naptha it could come out orange and be nearly pure.
Nonetheless, as I said my wager is that it is White-DMT + Some Orange Jungle DMT and/or Yellow DMT-N-OXIDE + some of the black lye-water
Now true: Lye will not vaporize at typical DMT-vaping temps but it would still be useful to know it is quite likely in the product. Whether to re-crystallize is up the the individual. Either with acetone or with (NEW) Naptha would work.
Sorry if this is "gruff" or grumpy sounding but during my time off I have learned a lot about REAL SCIENCE and I am beginning to appreciate how hard they have to work to get all their facts straight when doing experiments. Yes there are numerous times when there are oversights due to carelessness which have caused terrible things but it has brought us computers, rocket science, all types of physics. In medicine, however corrupt the system may be it has CURED completely dozens of diseases like Polio, Rhubella, Smallpox, Mumps, Measels which would KILL children and adults in staggering numbers.
Well I'm not going to keep ranting but honestly, lets keep people safe by stating facts when we know the facts and stating opinions when we are not sure. It is good for safety, it is good for the community, it is good science!
Cheers, much love
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I’ve had extractions turn out like that a couple of times – it seems to be caused by ultra-fine particles of MHRB getting suspended in the naphtha. I referred to it as “brown-sugar spice”. 
I like my DMT pure, so I did a re-extraction: I dissolved it in a small amount of vinegar, diluted with water, based with NaOH and re-extracted with naphtha.
I find such impure spice to be very harsh when vaporizing. I don’t like it at all.
I like my DMT pure, so I did a re-extraction: I dissolved it in a small amount of vinegar, diluted with water, based with NaOH and re-extracted with naphtha.I find such impure spice to be very harsh when vaporizing. I don’t like it at all.
gibran2 said:I’ve had extractions turn out like that a couple of times – it seems to be caused by ultra-fine particles of MHRB getting suspended in the naphtha. I referred to it as “brown-sugar spice”.
I find such impure spice to be very harsh when vaporizing. I don’t like it at all.
Don't you think a re-x (or two) should be enough ? A mini a/b seems a bit overkill to me in such a case.
@ justine's question
I'd think either a re-x would be fine but mini A/B would probably clean it a little more. But(in my experience) mini A/B may lose a little more DMT in the process than the re-x but both will loose some weigh which is the impurities.
I'd rather have less clean spice than lots of dirty orange personally though.
I'd think either a re-x would be fine but mini A/B would probably clean it a little more. But(in my experience) mini A/B may lose a little more DMT in the process than the re-x but both will loose some weigh which is the impurities.
I'd rather have less clean spice than lots of dirty orange personally though.
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In my experience, a re-x isn't effective when there's so much particulate contamination. I suppose it all depends on what the contamination actually is, and there's no harm done trying a re-x first.justine said:gibran2 said:I’ve had extractions turn out like that a couple of times – it seems to be caused by ultra-fine particles of MHRB getting suspended in the naphtha. I referred to it as “brown-sugar spice”.
I find such impure spice to be very harsh when vaporizing. I don’t like it at all.
Don't you think a re-x (or two) should be enough ? A mini a/b seems a bit overkill to me in such a case.
Biskotso said:
I totally know, that is why I either google it or I "Nexus-google, which is: "site:www.dmt-nexus.me *search term*" it (without quotes)
That should be recommended in the Welcome area as a sticky... I think. it allows >20000 results (don't know the limit) and uses the familiar google interface.
Think I should make the thread and PM traveler?
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