AiL762
\-= Conquer Your Fears =-/
So last night I attempted for the first time.
Had a torch lighter, gordotek dream maker, and 60mg of white crystals.
I did the full vapor chamber then take all in one technique.
So I get sensations of being high, but nothing noteworthy. Close eyed I can vaguely see patterns.
At this point im extremely disappointed as so much effort put into this and research to come up so short. All the preparation mentally and more. So said fuck it and decided to continue to try until I breakthrough.
Starting from another 50mg, and then even going up to 110mg at a few points, changing lighters, distances if too close, different aluminum foil placement, and countless others. Most I got was lite body high, some closed eye visuals and what seemed like a white light in the background.
I'm a smoker that does about a pack a day and even had done 2 packs at one point. Can smoke cigars, etc. So wasn't that a not holding in or hit issue. I even fasted for probably 12hours. Even did a quick 20min holotropic mediation prior to attempting. I turned off all the lights. Put noise canceling headphones on and even put on a sleeping blind. Nothing.
After probably wasted almost 700mg in total, and 2hrs of trying I was able to barely breakthrough.
Vision dissolved, saw white tunnel which seemed like it was in shape of something I couldn't describe. And next thing I know Im in some realm with these breathable water pillars rippling in waves but not in a flat plain like I've seen on the YouTube visuals. It's going in all 3 directions, x y and z axis. and it's pure chaos like just entered in the middle of a hurricane while I'm a ship on sea.
Sadly my cat and dogs were being wild at this point and I had to move around since cat jumped on me. Impossible to describe, but since I was messing with the cat and had to move my body felt like I was static and vibrating dissolving into energy. The movements of my body sounded and felt like waves being generated and effected the chaos in that realm. And felt as if I was moving in trails like in the 4th dimension or something.
And as fast as I was able to be like holy shit, it was gone. Barely went through. Prob lasted less than 2 minutes.
After being extremely upset and frustrated at this point. I started researching. Think read gordotek say something about 5% of users can not intake DMT. So maybe my enzymes are too strong?
So I think it mas my body not letting me experience it, so with just 1minute I couldn't analyze or think of anything. But for sure reality is not the same as anticipated.
Super stoked I finally ripped the bandaid off as I was absolutely terrified of this in comparision to what I've experienced in the extreme terror inducing smoked breakthrough ego death salvia trips Ive had.
Once saw your never really "out of control" and fully aware and awake with it, I can calmly and mentally be prepared in the future attempts without anxiety. Thankfully I was prepared to not be scared though, so knew I was going on a roller coaster and not dying.
Either way I decided next time to DEFINITELY do it with a MAOi. Prob just skip the smoking first and go directly into drinking it. Maybe soon will get a GVG instead of the dream machine as well.
During ayahuasca / oral, do you still get teleported? Where lose your vision for that 2-3hrs?? Sounds intense and worth the nausea / purge complications?
Anything else anyone can think of? I mean I could try the sandwich method but don't really care to smoke weed so I rarely use mine, def didn't want to do it with Salvia so soon, and idk why I have the presumption Tobacco would be shit to do it with.
Any feedback would be incredibly appreciated.
Had a torch lighter, gordotek dream maker, and 60mg of white crystals.
I did the full vapor chamber then take all in one technique.
So I get sensations of being high, but nothing noteworthy. Close eyed I can vaguely see patterns.
At this point im extremely disappointed as so much effort put into this and research to come up so short. All the preparation mentally and more. So said fuck it and decided to continue to try until I breakthrough.
Starting from another 50mg, and then even going up to 110mg at a few points, changing lighters, distances if too close, different aluminum foil placement, and countless others. Most I got was lite body high, some closed eye visuals and what seemed like a white light in the background.
I'm a smoker that does about a pack a day and even had done 2 packs at one point. Can smoke cigars, etc. So wasn't that a not holding in or hit issue. I even fasted for probably 12hours. Even did a quick 20min holotropic mediation prior to attempting. I turned off all the lights. Put noise canceling headphones on and even put on a sleeping blind. Nothing.
After probably wasted almost 700mg in total, and 2hrs of trying I was able to barely breakthrough.
Vision dissolved, saw white tunnel which seemed like it was in shape of something I couldn't describe. And next thing I know Im in some realm with these breathable water pillars rippling in waves but not in a flat plain like I've seen on the YouTube visuals. It's going in all 3 directions, x y and z axis. and it's pure chaos like just entered in the middle of a hurricane while I'm a ship on sea.
Sadly my cat and dogs were being wild at this point and I had to move around since cat jumped on me. Impossible to describe, but since I was messing with the cat and had to move my body felt like I was static and vibrating dissolving into energy. The movements of my body sounded and felt like waves being generated and effected the chaos in that realm. And felt as if I was moving in trails like in the 4th dimension or something.
And as fast as I was able to be like holy shit, it was gone. Barely went through. Prob lasted less than 2 minutes.
After being extremely upset and frustrated at this point. I started researching. Think read gordotek say something about 5% of users can not intake DMT. So maybe my enzymes are too strong?
So I think it mas my body not letting me experience it, so with just 1minute I couldn't analyze or think of anything. But for sure reality is not the same as anticipated.
Super stoked I finally ripped the bandaid off as I was absolutely terrified of this in comparision to what I've experienced in the extreme terror inducing smoked breakthrough ego death salvia trips Ive had.
Once saw your never really "out of control" and fully aware and awake with it, I can calmly and mentally be prepared in the future attempts without anxiety. Thankfully I was prepared to not be scared though, so knew I was going on a roller coaster and not dying.
Either way I decided next time to DEFINITELY do it with a MAOi. Prob just skip the smoking first and go directly into drinking it. Maybe soon will get a GVG instead of the dream machine as well.
During ayahuasca / oral, do you still get teleported? Where lose your vision for that 2-3hrs?? Sounds intense and worth the nausea / purge complications?
Anything else anyone can think of? I mean I could try the sandwich method but don't really care to smoke weed so I rarely use mine, def didn't want to do it with Salvia so soon, and idk why I have the presumption Tobacco would be shit to do it with.
Any feedback would be incredibly appreciated.
