Just had a call with an iboga retreat

[Joannium]

Hello everyone,

I just had a call with Celine from [an iboga retreat]. These are the things that stood out to me the most and I would like to know if this is normal practice (this is a retreat btw, not an official bwiti initiation).

On the first day / first ceremony, they give you 1 spoon so you can first get acquainted with the medicine.
On the second day / second ceremony, you get 5 spoons.
On the third day / third ceremony, you get 1-2 spoons.

I have no idea what "1 spoon" really translates into, but I am worried that these doses are too small. I asked if I could have more and she said no. Safety concerns. Taking more than that would be stepping into initiation territory, which they are not equipped for.

You don't get a room for yourself, we sleep in the ceremony space. You may get a bed in the attic, which has 8 beds, but you may have to pay extra (she said she will check with the owner of the space).

The total price is [MOD EDIT - NO SOURCING TALK]. The reason I'm contacting [them] is that they are the cheapest I've found, even if that price is high as [anything] [edited for language].

If anyone knows cheaper and trusted alternatives, I would love to know. I don't come from money, and I also don't think it is fair to make healing a privilege for the wealthy while inaccessible to those who struggle the most.

 

[Joannium]

I apologize, I was excited about finding this forum and posting this, and I missed reading the rules.

 

[blig-blug]

I know nothing about iboga retreats and I'm not experienced with iboga. But the fact that they say they're not equipped to handle what I assume refers to flood doses looks like a bad sign to me. With any psychedelic there's the possibility that someone reacts much more strongly than normal to a given dose. And if they mean cardiac risks, some risk still exists at lower doses.

Basically, it sounds to me like they're not equipped to offer iboga in general. I may be wrong, but I'd avoid that place.

 

[yatyas314]

Agree/\/\

 

[Jamie01]

I have eaten Iboga only a few times. Even just 4 grams was fairly deep and lasted a very long time. Terrence Mckenna dosed 4 grams and back when I did it I was told 5 grams was fairly standard doses for westerners anyway. Yeah Bwiti do take more to initiate but it’s also dangerous. Some people will swear by eating way more for a “flood” dose so take whatever I say as just one anecdote.

I don’t know a whole about it other than what I experienced. I still have a gram I’m planning to eat soonish I have been saving for like 9 years. Even a gram I will feel and have had great benefits from, esp combined with oral cannabis which is done in some traditions.

If I ever eat any more of it in my life I think I would go for 5-6 grams but not higher, and certainly not without a guide. I did it alone and just talked to some providers first.

It was life altering that’s for sure. The afterglow was just unreal. Hope you find it as useful as I did.

 

[Jamie01]

I think 5 “spoons” of Iboga might be a solid dose already but why measure that way? That’s a terrible way to communicate I don’t know why they can’t just be clear and state how many grams a person is getting. Also do they just give everyone 5 spoons? Or is this dose adjusted based on how ppl respond to the first dose?