Just need some id's on Arcacia?

[Aztec]

Hey I was just wanting some id's on these plants if it is possible. Cheers for any help. This is my first time id'ing a plant so yeah.







I was wondering if some of the photos same as Acacia-berlandieri but they say they only grow in south America and not NZ. I was thinking it must be a family of it or something? Anyway any help is much appreciated.

 

[bufoman]

Are there any flowers, fruits, seed pods, seeds? CHeck out a book of tree species in New Zealand. It def. looks like an acacia to SWIM, but he is no expert. There are other tress in the US that look like that that are not acacias Like the silk tree.

 

[Aztec]

Are there any flowers, fruits, seed pods, seeds? CHeck out a book of tree species in New Zealand. It def. looks like an acacia to SWIM, but he is no expert. There are other tress in the US that look like that that are not acacias Like the silk tree.

Well I found one flower still on it. All the other flowers seemed to be died. Hope these pictures help. It also seems a little different to that picture above (got it from wiki). As the leafs have a kinda sharp end.




Cheers for all the help so far.

 

['Coatl]

Go over to the Corroboree and ask.

They'll know.

 

[bufoman]

The false mimosa does have a pink flower. That is what it looks like to me but i would ask others. Check what species are in your area. It should be fairly easy to tell. There are many different types.
mimosa pigra is supposed to be one species in your area. invasive though. Look into it.

 

[Aztec]

That's odd they only say Australia and other country's nothing about it been in NZ. So I am not exactly sure if it is it or not. It also state's that there is prickles on it on this tree I can not see any.

Also it is NZ not Australia so we don't have Corroboree here that is with the aboriginals.

 

['Coatl]

The Corroboree is a forum for people who live in Aus (Oz) and New Zealand and the surronding areas. They can help with this.

The Corroboree Forums

 

[lordwispa]

If you SERIOUSLY want to identify plants you must take note off flowers, time of year it does what, height, local environment and just about everything you can think of. Its hard and as someone else said missidentification can have DIRE results, HOWEVER if you seriously want some accacia why don't you get some seeds??? They grow quick and if any people a really considering themselves "SPIRITUAL" or "ENLIGHTENED" i'd think they myte stop ripping off nature and screwing with the ecosystem to get their entheogenics(NOT suggesting you are Dude)I'm hoping we may all start to influence each other and spread the word to treat the woods a little better, these power plants have become WAY popular in the last decade and we have far too many "Happy Campers" tramping through without hearing nature and sadly a LOT of these sacraments are on the endangered list now(DEMON EST DEUS INVERSUS!!)Pity, i have seeds of an accacia so strong it needs no extraction but am too scared to reveal what it is as its dying out,(no-one seems to know it so im growing JUST to help save it)-i may suggest if one NEEDS to extract such either go for cane toads(YEUCH!) or at least grow your own and aim at those that contain alkaloids in the leafs

 

[Aztec]

If you SERIOUSLY want to identify plants you must take note off flowers, time of year it does what, height, local environment and just about everything you can think of. Its hard and as someone else said missidentification can have DIRE results, HOWEVER if you seriously want some accacia why don't you get some seeds??? They grow quick and if any people a really considering themselves "SPIRITUAL" or "ENLIGHTENED" i'd think they myte stop ripping off nature and screwing with the ecosystem to get their entheogenics(NOT suggesting you are Dude)I'm hoping we may all start to influence each other and spread the word to treat the woods a little better, these power plants have become WAY popular in the last decade and we have far too many "Happy Campers" tramping through without hearing nature and sadly a LOT of these sacraments are on the endangered list now(DEMON EST DEUS INVERSUS!!)Pity, i have seeds of an accacia so strong it needs no extraction but am too scared to reveal what it is as its dying out,(no-one seems to know it so im growing JUST to help save it)-i may suggest if one NEEDS to extract such either go for cane toads(YEUCH!) or at least grow your own and aim at those that contain alkaloids in the leafs

Cheers for the info. But do you really think they are dieing out that badly to become nonexistent over a period? Also if I had the money I would go to south America and learn the real way by plant and shaman there.

 

[Dr Sway]

It's not an Acacia. Looks like it's in Mimosaceae, that's all I can tell you. I've seen them growing in East Aus. Don't know if its native or exotic but I'd be leaning pretty heavily towards exotic.

 

[SyZyGyPSy]

That pink flower looks like a mimosa found in most of the southern us and mexico. Entropymancer had an excellent thread on the jungle spice phenomenon where he speculated that this is the plant that a lot of times is actually being sold as M. hostilis. He gave the name of it but I can't remember it off hand, too lazy to look it up rite now. Anyway good chance it's active but may also contain mimosine or other toxic components as well. Swim's been trying to find someone with a gas chromatograph or something to analyze it.
This one's certainly far from being endangered, though I do hear what's being said about respecting and not depleting nature.
I was recently informed by Jayce Callaway that the stam bark of Mimosa tenuiflora (which is probly the same thing as M. hostilis) contains alkaloids, so there's actually no need to kill the plant to work with it. I would encourage everyone to contact their vendors and make them aware of this... I have often worried about M. hostilis being overharvested, given its popularity. If there's gonna be a change in the harvesting patterns it's gonna have to originate from the demand side, the suppliers are only responding to our demand for root bark. If we start demanding sustainably harvested stem bark instead we can prevent the depletion of this most amazing resource. Contact your mimosa vendor today and tell them to tell their people to start supplying stem bark!

 

[Aztec]

Cheers for the update I guess I will have to wait on that report then before I try doing anything.