Layers won't separate - QT's tek

[3sixty]

Hi, I need an advice please. I'm following QT's guide using mimosa hostilis root bark and everything in exact amount as in guide but I'm now stuck because my emulsion won't separate as I think it should.

Take a look at these pictures:

After shaking:

After 24 hours:

This is my first time extracting DMT and I don't have any useful knowledge of chemistry.
My main problem is that I don't know if I should just wait longer or if I need to make it right somehow - how?

I would be very glad for every useful answer, thanks.

 

[endlessness]

Forget QT's tek next time. It is outdated. Check out our WIKI for better teks.

Also the first place to check when having questions is the FAQ

Good luck!

 

[tele]

Q21Q21's tek is easy and works very well. Take a look:

Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B Extraction Tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

 

[3sixty]

Thanks, I'll probably try it next time. Althought right now I would like to finish this batch - do you know whats going on in my jar? Layers are somewhat separated but I'm puzzled about the middle part... does it suppose to look like this :?:

 

[DiMiTriX]

try to add some nacl or na2co3 or ca(oh)2 some polar ionic salts will help to break down the emulsion there..

 

[endlessness]

3sixty, as I said check the FAQ, that's an emulsion, there are tips there how to break it up.

good luck!

 

[Shaolin]

Forget QT's tek next time. It is outdated. Check out our WIKI for better teks.

Whut ? Whick TEK is newer/better (not that I think it's the best) than QT's ?

 

[endlessness]

There are many issues with QT: Extractions that take a month or more, recommending ziplocks as improvised separatory funnels, being unnecessarily complicated, unnecessary use of hcl, wrong pH values for basification, etc.

Scroll down the main WIKI page and see the A/B's, any will do fine. For example Vovin, the handbook or Mars'. The important though is to not necessarily follow one tek exactly as its written but rather understand what the processes are for.

One of the things that I find very unnecessary in some A/B's when using mimosa is defatting. Its a wasteful process that uses a lot of solvent which are discarded (unless one distills it), and doesnt clean much in this case. Much better do freeze precipitation and/or recrystalization, or salting and then convert to freebase with water crystallization.

 

[Shaolin]

Hehe, my bad end. I read misraed QT as Q21. Agreed on all counts.

On the topic of FAQ though, I think it's pretty weak emulsions wise - "If emulsions form, add more lye" - especially in the case where one uses a TEK where NaOH is not used for basing, since we know/presume that people resort to alternative TEKs that use other bases mostly because they don't want to use/can't get/won't get (Can I get a meth ?) NaOH.

 

[3sixty]

Thanks for help, guys! I added more lye and color changed instantly. It also helped with emulsion but not completely so I added some salt and it looks good so far. I'm gonna post what came out of it after naptha evaporated out.