Thanks Acacian, i think that my default mode is probably quite orb like. As far as the gain staging and different levels go, i am sending stems that are hopefully at the same levels as the primary stems. I don;t know about other daws but my ableton has a very useful gain utility for messing with the levels. And i dont know how everyone else feels but as i see it any stems that are posted are a free for all for other members to use and arrange how ever they see fit. Louder, quieter, inside out and every which way possible. My daw loaded your stems up as 83 point something bpm. I have a few other bits but i would rather not monopolise and let other members put their flavours in. I am very happy making noises but not so hot at the arrangement bit.....