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LG's 1.7% A/B MHRB Extraction Tek & Tasteless Multi-Gram Mega/Monocrystal Recrystallization

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Mindlusion said:
LevitatingGod said:
It's silly to respond when I've already created a mono crystal proving its possible. Thank you for your opinion, though. Peace be with you.

Does it look like quartz? :?

total misrepresentation of dialogue... its a nice crystal, man, its just not quartz

It took a lot of work to get this done and i have posted my dmt mono crystal above and re-edited it into the crystallization part of my technique and attached the images there too. I do not know if I should go for bigger though because it took almost all my product to make this 2.22g mono crystal and now I'm kinda like, "that was expensive and a lot of work" lol... It was worth the patience though because even though I knocked the crystallization jar a bit with my hand during the final evaporation of the solvent, only one chunk came off the side that hadn't fully formed or something.. I was so Shakey after that, lol!! I went and sat and meditated just to avoid panicking because I have put soo much time into this crystal. It's a beauty, though, I just wish I had more to make it bigger is all :/
Oh well.. it's finished I suppose. I will try to make a bigger one when I can afford to but as of now I think this size is just going to have to do.
Peace, Love, Sound and Light to Each and All.
 
LevitatingGod said:
Mindlusion said:
LevitatingGod said:
It's silly to respond when I've already created a mono crystal proving its possible. Thank you for your opinion, though. Peace be with you.

Does it look like quartz? :?

total misrepresentation of dialogue... its a nice crystal, man, its just not quartz

It took a lot of work to get this done and i have posted my dmt mono crystal above and re-edited it into the crystallization part of my technique and attached the images there too. I do not know if I should go for bigger though because it took almost all my product to make this 2.22g mono crystal and now I'm kinda like, "that was expensive and a lot of work" lol... It was worth the patience though because even though I knocked the crystallization jar a bit with my hand during the final evaporation of the solvent, only one chunk came off the side that hadn't fully formed or something.. I was so Shakey after that, lol!! I went and sat and meditated just to avoid panicking because I have put soo much time into this crystal. It's a beauty, though, I just wish I had more to make it bigger is all :/
Oh well.. it's finished I suppose. I will try to make a bigger one when I can afford to but as of now I think this size is just going to have to do.
Peace, Love, Sound and Light to Each and All.

Sorry I didn't mean to discredit your work with my previous comment, I felt it was a bit out of context and disingenuous in terms of the chemistry.

But what you have posted is seriously the nicest DMT crystal I've ever seen. And 2.22g that is huge! Great work. It seems to have 4 faces on one side... I wonder which of the two polymorphs it is.. Obviously different from the 5 face plates we usually know as for freebase DMT. I wonder if it would be the higher melting or lower melting... In all honesty now I reconsider even the quartz.... Ill have to try this for myself

If you have a smaller chunk of that same crystal maybe you could do a melting point test!
 
Mindlusion said:
LevitatingGod said:
Mindlusion said:
LevitatingGod said:
It's silly to respond when I've already created a mono crystal proving its possible. Thank you for your opinion, though. Peace be with you.

Does it look like quartz? :?

total misrepresentation of dialogue... its a nice crystal, man, its just not quartz

It took a lot of work to get this done and i have posted my dmt mono crystal above and re-edited it into the crystallization part of my technique and attached the images there too. I do not know if I should go for bigger though because it took almost all my product to make this 2.22g mono crystal and now I'm kinda like, "that was expensive and a lot of work" lol... It was worth the patience though because even though I knocked the crystallization jar a bit with my hand during the final evaporation of the solvent, only one chunk came off the side that hadn't fully formed or something.. I was so Shakey after that, lol!! I went and sat and meditated just to avoid panicking because I have put soo much time into this crystal. It's a beauty, though, I just wish I had more to make it bigger is all :/
Oh well.. it's finished I suppose. I will try to make a bigger one when I can afford to but as of now I think this size is just going to have to do.
Peace, Love, Sound and Light to Each and All.

Sorry I didn't mean to discredit your work with my previous comment, I felt it was a bit out of context and disingenuous in terms of the chemistry.

But what you have posted is seriously the nicest DMT crystal I've ever seen. And 2.22g that is huge! Great work. It seems to have 4 faces on one side... I wonder which of the two polymorphs it is.. Obviously different from the 5 face plates we usually know as for freebase DMT. I wonder if it would be the higher melting or lower melting... In all honesty now I reconsider even the quartz.... Ill have to try this for myself

If you have a smaller chunk of that same crystal maybe you could do a melting point test!
:cry: Thank you, that was really sweet of you to say. I was a bit worried everyone was going to be harsh bc I had hyped up a big crystal and couldn't pull it off as big as I maybe portrayed it was going to be, but I do know it's possible to make it bigger!
I'm going to be trying it out tonight so we will see how long until it melts down. How would I check a melting point of it?
 
Lovely work!

Go treat yourself to something nice. If I'd made something even a tenth of that size I'd be very pleased indeed. :thumb_up: :thumb_up:

The next question would be trying to make the other (or another) polymorph! Did you measure the temperature at which your crystallisation took place? All it would take, I should imagine, is controlling the temperature so it's on the other side of the transition point - although it also appears that there are solvent effects so perhaps that factor could be used instead.

This is something we could all have a go at trying - of course, not necessarily the mega-crystal but at least both forms as large monocrystals.
 
downwardsfromzero said:
Lovely work!

Go treat yourself to something nice. If I'd made something even a tenth of that size I'd be very pleased indeed. :thumb_up: :thumb_up:

The next question would be trying to make the other (or another) polymorph! Did you measure the temperature at which your crystallisation took place? All it would take, I should imagine, is controlling the temperature so it's on the other side of the transition point - although it also appears that there are solvent effects so perhaps that factor could be used instead.

This is something we could all have a go at trying - of course, not necessarily the mega-crystal but at least both forms as large monocrystals.
Dang :/ I didn't measure that..
So what exactly are we talking about here? Are you stating if I were to, say, dial a certain temperature for the saturated solvent to remain at during crystallization, I could make specified geometrics from this?
I can definitely see temperature being a factor. I just would like to make a single giant cube or something. I don't understand why it creates so many faces like it did with this one, at first it was making one big cube but over time I saw it changing. Do you think observation would potentially alter the outcome? I'm honestly curious, this is not sarcasm by any means.. I would like to make it perfectly symmetrical. Do you think application of a controlled frequency during crystallization could maybe help with this?
 
Do you think observation would potentially alter the outcome? I'm honestly curious, this is not sarcasm by any means.. I would like to make it perfectly symmetrical. Do you think application of a controlled frequency during crystallization could maybe help with this?
I honestly have no idea! People may want to shoot me down in flames for saying this but you may want to pay attention to the positions of the planets during the process if you're interested in the alchemical aspects of this type of practice. I've anecdotally observed frost taking notably different forms according to certain planetary alignments but really no moment is the same as any other moment by that measure - although some are more similar.

Planetary orbital periods are just another case of frequency so that can be a guide in the absence of any other more directly meaningful information. Were you thinking of some derivative of 432Hz, perhaps?

As far as observation goes, your presence (should that be the manner in which you choose to observe) would introduce vibration, air movement and thermal radiation which might lead to convection currents in the solution which would potentially alter the outcome. If you were listening to theta brainwave entrainment binaural beats at the time, well, the cat's your intern. Or something.

(Sorry, past bedtime again!)
 
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Do you think observation would potentially alter the outcome? I'm honestly curious, this is not sarcasm by any means.. I would like to make it perfectly symmetrical. Do you think application of a controlled frequency during crystallization could maybe help with this?

quantum physics postulates that this is very posible.!
its called true alchemy !

downward wrote!
As far as observation goes, your presence (should that be the manner in which you choose to observe) would introduce vibration, air movement and thermal radiation which might lead to convection currents in the solution which would potentially alter the outcome. If you were listening to theta brainwave entrainment binaural beats at the time, well, the cat's your intern. Or something.

(Sorry, past bedtime again!)



Alchemy and Spagyrics

“Alchemy is the gentle acceleration of growth through the use of the fire of nature.” – Paracelsus

Alchemy is one of the most ancient sciences, religions, and systems of medicine in the world. It has its roots in Mesapotamia and ancient Egypt, the birthplace of the human species. It is in essence the art of transformation. Most people perceive alchemy as turning lead into gold, and while this is a minor aspect of the alchemical arts, it is something much deeper. It is not so much about making gold for monetary gain, but more about transmuting the base metal of our ego into the gold of our spirit. It is a systematic spirituality that brings one into harmony with the elements, the planets, and the source of creation.



a watched pot never boils!

and having an observer can indeed change an outcome,!

There are three main branches of alchemy: the traditional western esoteric system, ayurveda, and Taoist Chinese medicine. Each branch is encyclopedic and extends deep into the mysteries of nature and healing. But they are all branches reaching out of the same trunk with its roots deep in nature.

Alchemy provides an energetic cosmology, or map of the universe in which all things can be understood. This natural philosophy shows the energetic architecture from which all things are composed of. By understanding cosmology, we understand where we come from and where we are going- and the transformative process of where we are.

Spagyrics is the practical application of the cosmology of alchemy. One is theory, the other is practice. Spagyrics is a process of creating philosophical medicines that are made in harmony with the nature of the substance being worked with- mainly minerals, metals and plants. The word spagyrics comes from two Greek words “Spao” meaning to separate, and “gyro” meaning to combine. Thus, a certain natural substance is separated into its principle components, exhalted or concentrated, and recombined into a higher state of being. A true spagyricist not only purifies and evolves a piece of matter, but is purifying and evolving themselves with it. This is what makes alchemy a true spiritual system, that everything done in the external is also done in the internal and thus the medicine in embodied. This is the method in which all of the Organic Unity products are prepared.
 
I just would like to make a single giant cube or something

Well as I understood it, DMT has 2 distinct crystal structures (polymorph) and none of them has 90° edges. So growing a cube is impossible.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
well ,
iv done evaps with
shellite and 5-7% up to 10% toluene,!
where ive got very big crystals that look similar to that.
it would depend on temperature and humidity , and the solvent-s.!
and re x method.
but i must say that looks wierd.!but beauitful.
but with evaps you can get one slate glass plate that you can definitely cut with a razor
into cubes .!
 
levitatinggod,
when somone said that quarts was a fake,
he was talking about the erowid crystal.
and i have seen a 57 gram crystal that just formed all by itself out if shellite,
just sitting there on the porch all by its self.
the shellite was just so saturated and it was the middle of winter in OZZ.
that the crystal just formed by itself with no help or intent,!

i once had a 5ltr olive jar of shellite,!
that chrystalised before i could wash the solvent.!

i was doing the 3rd pull ,
when i noticed the 2nd pull jar.!
on the balcony.!

when i looked.!!!

there was a 3 spiral form growing from the base of the jar.
it was literaly like a DNA spiral with 3 full turns before it became,
a 57gram rock the size of your fist, sitting on top of the tripple spiral dna looking
spiral base stand,!
sorry hard to describe.!!!.

but to my dismay, i was dissappointed as,
there was a big red patch of wat i thought was a base contamination.!
so i dried it and weighed it.
70 grams all up dry weight,!
so i dissoved id it in shellite and attemted to re crystalize it.
but to no avail.
id lost the rock.!!!???
spewin bro.
but i had realized after the fact that it was not base conamination at all,
it was just beautiful color.!

that was 10 years ago.

and i never saw anything like that again.!!!
it was a fluke.!
it just happened.
all hail the harmony of mind and nature,!

DREAMS REALLY CAN BECOME SOLID REALITY,!
it is much easier to grow a huge crystal

if you start with a huge amount of dmt!
or words to that efect,!

isn't that erowid crystal suposed to weigh 2.2 pounds?

but levitatinggod that is one of the most beauitful crystals i have ever seen mate,
that is very good work ,!
congratulations.
hope you can try to scale up when you have the time>
 
Aum_Shanti said:
I just would like to make a single giant cube or something

Well as I understood it, DMT has 2 distinct crystal structures (polymorph) and none of them has 90° edges. So growing a cube is impossible.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My dmt crystal was literally a cube as a seed and almost completed as a cube but a few things altered the final outcome. So as for it being 'impossible' it's not. Anything is possible, "impossible" is going on all around us in a variety of ways, indefinitely.

I know the form a crystal takes on is based upon several things, one major one being the vibrations creating/aligning the formation(Kymatica/Cymatics). So theoretically(I will find out asap as I am working to see how to test this theory) if a frequency could be applied in a controlled way, you could potentially alter the crystals form entirely, even after its fully grown.
 
LevitatingGod said:
Aum_Shanti said:
I just would like to make a single giant cube or something

Well as I understood it, DMT has 2 distinct crystal structures (polymorph) and none of them has 90° edges. So growing a cube is impossible.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My dmt crystal was literally a cube as a seed and almost completed as a cube but a few things altered the final outcome. So as for it being 'impossible' it's not. Anything is possible, "impossible" is going on all around us in a variety of ways, indefinitely.

I know the form a crystal takes on is based upon several things, one major one being the vibrations creating/aligning the formation(Kymatica/Cymatics). So theoretically(I will find out asap as I am working to see how to test this theory) if a frequency could be applied in a controlled way, you could potentially alter the crystals form entirely, even after its fully grown.

See this is where you start to make things up. It is no question that pressure waves , even electromagnetic waves, can have an effect on the growth of crystal structure, but it is very minor compared to the much greater factors that you completely ignore in favor of the mystical and new age sounding factors.

Solvent, concentration, temperature, rate of change in concentration, rate of change in temperature, impurity type and concentration, these all have many magnitudes greater change in crystal structure then soundwaves. For example, the well known cubic salt crystals of NaCl can become needle like with just a few drops of an organic impurity. Most altered structures come about by distrupting the growth on the faces of the crystals, these altered structures are not considered different polymorphs either.

Just because it looked perfectly cubic when it was small, doesn't mean the final structure is a cube, many orthorhombic crystals in their growth patterns go through a cubic phase. I am not saying what it is or what it isn't I am saying visual observation IS deceiving.

I'm also not saying you didn't take this stuff into account, obviously you had to , to get that result. But before you go adding things try repeating it, soon you will find completely different results for a reason you do not yet know or could not account for. This way you can better discount claims of something else your doing causing another effect. Correlation is not causation. You can by all means play with it, play is fun I do it all the time, it can lead to great success on occasion, but it's not science, it can fool you.
If you can repeat it, try changing the solvent. You are using naphtha, for example, the 1% of some aromatic component could have a drastic effect that you wouldn't see using heptane.
 
:shock: :d 😁 :thumb_up: Beautiful job my friend. Very different from the first large clump! I highly commended you work and patience on this. I think it is plenty big enough to show the potential of your technique.
Afew questions.. 1. Does it appear to be fairly structurally strong or would you consider it fragile?
2. Does light easily pass through the crystal (pic of this would be great) and is it refractive? (Any splitting of colours)
3. Does it smell?
4. Are you going to test it for potency via bioessay?😉
 
that is avery nice looking crystal,
you mentioned that you were going to store it away for along time?
it would be nice to at least smoke 40-50mgs,?
petty to just look at it bro.

i am interested to know if it is fragile or fairly dense as well?
and it would be interesting to use that one as a seed crystal too.
great work!:thumb_up:
 
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