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Long term use of DMT

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Finally, has anyone found what they were looking for with the use of spice? If so, why do you continue to use it?

You have to be careful with 'Looking for'. We are not 'seeking'.

'To seek' implies that you have some pre-conceived idea of that which you are seeking. Inevitably you would find a self-projection, a delusion.

Enquiry differs from seeking. She has taught me this.

The spirit of enquiry knows no conclusion. I continue to journey with spice as hyperspace would appear to be the best place to enquire.




If you can indulge me them I will explain my position below.




Whilst not serving our desire for conclusions, she may instead provoke the most profound questions.

I come back with more questions than answers. With DMT I have found what I didn't expect- what I didn't self-project : legitimate, burning questions!

I continue to use spice so that I may ask those questions directly of creation itself rather than of my own second hand knowledge. My brain can access lots of information but my thought is dead. Charged with electricity, my thought (as ego) swaggers about like Frankenstein's monster. Why feign understanding? But it does. Knowledge is not understanding. The brain is meat. In meat is memory. I don't wish to enquire of it.

I believe I mistake knowledge for fact, unwitting assumption and latest paradigm for truth. I view this world through glazed eyes- through a veil of preconception. DMT routinely blows my preconceptions to kingdom come. :shock: DMT is IMHO a chemical key which unlocks doors to a more immediate experience of something 'other'.

'Other' than what?

Other than thought. That's what. Other than thought as the expression of memory. Stale, pre-conceived self-deceptive. One of my favourite teachers Jiddu Krishnamurti put it like this;

Energy functioning within a pattern is matter.
Thought is energy functioning within a pattern.
Therefore thought is a material process.


All material processes are conditioned and pre-determined. Stale, old. There can be no new thought, only modifications of the old, derivative pattern.

Our thoughts about something are not the thing itself. . . or the entities themselves. I think that the indulgence of thought is materialistic. And dead. Agitating a stagnant pool with a stick.

Contrast that with the sheer immediacy of perception possible only during the absence of thought (e.g. through DMT). It is supernatural and transcendent of this pond. More real than reality. I have myself been 'surprised' by entities which, I can assure you, were most definitely not pre-conceived by my mind! Those presences have consistently attempted to communicate something to me. My question at the moment is this: 'Can I release, surrender and shut the fuck up long enough to receive novel information?'

I continue to use spice because hyperspace gave me the questions and hyperspace would appear to be the best place to ask those questions.
 
Just wanted to react on som of the q´s from the topic post.

I understand the DMT experience as both hedonistic and spiritual (sacred, for that matter).
I found God. Is it enough?
 
I can definately relate to the substance being self-regulating. Fully agreed.
Infact, SWIM Sometimes gets intense fear and rapid heartbeat when thinking about the spice. He's still trying to work it out, but he thinks that this may be a product of the occasional negative experience that he gets from smoking. However, If the last experience he had was positive, he doesn't seem to get the rapid anxiety. Also, he says just a tip, if you smoke some till you feel 'fucked', but not fully immersed, sometimes in than minuite or so, you can get up the balls and really rip a big one.
 
Also, he says just a tip, if you smoke some till you feel 'fucked', but not fully immersed, sometimes in than minute or so, you can get up the balls and really rip a big one.

Everyone should try this at least once. It can do you no harm. I knew when the time was right. Did this last time. I haven’t been back for a month though.:shock:

Self-regulating ? . . . yes definitely!
 
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