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Low Yield from Acacia

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Yesterday I performed my first extraction from 100 grams of ACRB with disappointing results. I have not drained off the naptha yet but i did have a little peak in the freezer and all i could see was 6 to 8 small white crystals on the bottom of the tray, a couple of hits at max. I followed Earthwalker tek (ACRB TEK 100g "PICS" (Newbie Friendly) - A/B - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus) and I'm trying to work out where I went wrong?

In a 1.5 liter glass (wine) bottle I freeze/thawed 3 times.

Added 55-60mls white table viniger and left in a heat bath of 50 degrees C for 1.5 - 2 hours. Turning regularly. No PH scale was used.

Dissolved 80g of salt in 400mls or hot water and added it to acid soup. I did not add a further 600 mls as suggested because the size of my bottle would not allow for it.

-Added 50g 100% Lye to 300mls water and added it to the bottle containing the soup and was then topped of with water leaving enough room for naptha pulls.

-Base soup was left in heat bath for 2.5 hours. Turning occasionally.

-50mls of warm naptha was added to the soup and gently turned end over end for 1 min or so before being left to settle into two layer. Separation happened almost immediately. This was done 4 times per pull and 5 pull were performed in total. Pulls were done with a plastic pipette and collected in a glass jar. Soup was left in heat bath when separating and between pulls.

From here I went straight in to the clean up steps.

-Added 500mls of tap water and 60mls of white viniger to a 1 liter bottle then added the pulled naptha, the naptha went cloudy.

- The bottle was gently turned end over end and left to settle 10 times. Separation happened almost immediately and no brown fatty layer was not noticed as mention in the original tek. Used naptha was siphoned off with a pipette and stored in a glass jar.

- 50g of Lye was added to 200mls cold tap water then added to the acid solution in the 1 liter bottle. I was expecting the water to turn white and be able to see dmt floating round the top of the solution, this didn't happen the way I was i expected it to. The bottle turned slightly cloudy and something that looked like algae or bacteria could be seen suspended in the water.

-5 pulls were done with fresh hot naptha. Each pull was shaken and let to separate. Pulls were collected in a pyrex dish. No white fatty layer was noticed between water and naptha. Pulls were crystal clear.

-Pulls were pre evaped with a fan for about 1 hour before the dish was wrapped in plastic wrap and placed in the freezer over night. Naptha did not turn cloudy when under the fan.

Any Ideasa when I might have went wrong? Bad Bark?

Only difference from the origanl tek was i used a 1.5 liter instead of a 2 liter but was told that it would be ok in another post.

I used Ronsonal as Naptha.
Lye was 100%
Water was all tap water, some of it was boiled for dissolving the salt.
Viniger was normal cheap table white viniger.
Salt was iodized.....I couldn't find no-iodized.
I do not have a PH meter so PH was never mesured.
I do not have 0.01 scales as yet, i have ordered them, hope they arrive soon

I still Have the soup, the 1 liter Base water and the used naptha.
 
OneStepBeyond said:
If you just want to see if there's anything left that you missed and you don't want to go to the trouble of the mini a/b, you could just use all the used naphtha you have to take pulls from your heated base soup, evaporate it all in a dish and see what it leaves behind. It won't be clean and fluffy but you'll have your answer and it can be cleaned up after the fact. It will be a fair bit of solvent to evaporate and it's kind of a waste though.
Better not to evaporate naphtha (Yuck!)

Instead, wash with white vinegar or citric acid solution then take this acid solution and evaporate to recover DMT acetate or citrate. Mix with sodium carbonate (washing soda) to rebasify, allow to dry, then pull with acetone. Evaporate acetone to recover DMT. Recrystallise if necessary.
 
Forget naphtha. Get on that heptane. Pulls less fats and oils.
Just try a stb on powdered root bark.

1500ml water
100grams lye
100 grams root bark
50-100ml heptane pulls.
freeze precip your pulls and evap the leftover heptane. Or just evap it because its heptane.

Get yourself a gallon glass pickle jar and stir with a big steel spoon.
Gloves and goggles.
 
I just wanted to thank everyone who has commented on this post, i have been taking all your advise on board. Sorry I haven't replied sooner but i've had some internet problems so i havent been on here much in the last few week.

Since I originally made this post I have completed one other extraction following the same method. The second time round I had a slightly high yield but still low....0.5g from 100g ACRB. From that 0.5g about 1/3 what white fluuf and the other 2/3 was yellow spice.

Today I used cybs hybrid salt tek for 50gram...its in the freezer now, hopfully ill have something nice to wake up to in the morning :)
 
If your not yeilding right still, i've just mentioned this to another member having trouble with acacia.
Try using more water with powdered bark.
In the older stb teks (nomans mentions it i think) finer powdered bark requires more water for good yeilds.

This may be something to keep in mind.
I've never had to use more water because i've always used whole root bark & broken it down by myself & it does not get anywhere near as finely powdered as bark bought pre-powdered.
 
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