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LSALVIA Dimethylnorum and Changafarian Rue

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cubeananda

cubeananda

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So I have been thinking,


I would like to try eating Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and chasing it down with a Syrian rue tea,
After like some period of time would also like to eat some number of grams of ACRB. Shortly there afterwards smoke 12 mg of 40x salvia.


A few questions about this.

How long should I wait after drinking rue tea to eat tree bark?
The only reason I wait is to get 'dialed in' to the nausea by smoking salvia with seeds in my stomach before the full throttle nausea sets in.

And, should I even entertain thoughts of smoking changa on this?
 
sounds like it would be one mother of a journey..

I would assume you could eat the bark anytime after 10 minutes of drinking the tea. Altho.. I rate waiting an hour or so would be good just to see how the rue effects the HBWR.. I guess its all up to you, and how you feel on that specific moment

If you do do this, please post a report! and good luck
 
This is why i want to amend the wiki on LSA. nausea is so unnecessary, please just do a Cold Water Extraction on it. crush the seeds well, and soak in just above freezing water for 6-8 hours and then filter it. you could even MAO inhibit before drinking the CWE. ive never done so, so its risky. 13 seeds without maoi is usually plenty, very plenty. smoking salvia on such a dose could be great. OR dmt, i wouldnt try both though. i wonder if you get leg cramps from eating the seeds. ive chewed up to 10 seeds in the past (15 minutes then spit out) and got really bad leg cramps from vasoconstriction.

EDIT: forgive me for being new, but id be worried about the maoi interaction with the vasocontrictors. even if you do use CWE they will still be there. im thinking about cardiac issues. though im just guessing and it might be ok. just be safe please :)
 
I've eaten seeds before and the nausea, I am expecting, will play an important role in this.

However what I felt last time was that the nausea should ideally lead to a purge (which in that case, it didn't I just eventually fell asleep.) This is why I got the Idea for such a cornucopia of entheogens. Actually I don't think I would do salvia unless there was nausea. My experience has showed be that the nausea has a very useful grounding property.

However I am wondering if there would be any dangerous interaction between rue and the seeds (I have heard there are cyanogenic glycosides but haven't seen anything definitive)

If there isn't I'm considering:

6 seeds, 12mg 40x, 3 g of rue

However I am going to experiment with anahuasca before going into this to determine the right dose of ACRB for me.
 
Interesting thinking. If you do this, it will be powerful(though, I'm sure you're already aware of that.) 😉

5 seeds is plenty. The seeds are usually covered with a fuzz that protects the seeds. This fuzz contains quite poisonous compounds and needs to be scraped off(or with another approach)to avoid unnecessary, unpleasant nausea and possibly a ruined experiment and experience. The inner flesh also contains nauseating compounds naturally, mostly derivatives, even LSA itself can exert these effects.

Syrian rue tea will probably potentiate HBWR but also contains nauseating compounds within that plant as well. Some possible stomach cramping and possibly some purging will occur with both of these plants at the doses you have planned. The interaction should be okay, but be prepared for some possible uneasy feelings.

Smoking the 20mg of 40x enhanced salvia leaf might be more powerful due to the combination, already. HBWR usually takes its course slowly, but much more prominent(once its peaks) with the inhibiting effects of rue.

Not sure about eating acacia root bark.. are you mixing it with another source of saturated material? It will probably upset your digestion with everything else going on within your body. Maybe wait 1 hour or 2 to begin eating that. Or maybe after purging?
 
Okay, Will naphtha pull of the glycosides?


The last time I ate seeds I did a de-fat but was totally unaware of the cyanogenic glycosides.


Yes possibly in orange juice... But I was also considering just parachuting with rice paper.

The point is to upset my stomach and to do some real work. "Pleasant" is a fairly subjective term IMO
 
Considering you have naphtha, you could do an extraction of the whole, scraped seeds and separate them, etc. Soaking the whole seeds in water or naphtha will make it easier to scrape off the outer coating. In water, at least a day or two(natural approach, I'd recommend this over naphtha.) Naphtha would be quicker and possibly more efficient with that idea, though. You also have the option to do a water-based extraction of the ground-up, scraped seed matter and take that. Changa isn't out of question if you're willing to proceed with that approach. Not much would need to be taken, though.

Prepare accordingly..

Wise, cubeananda. Do be careful with all this.
 
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