LSD + psilocybin + DMT?

[CatchThirtyThr33]

Morning Nexus,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this combo. I don't mean to sound reckless or overly-ambitious, but would this combination be worth a try? I have extensive experience with LSD and mushrooms, moderate experience with DMT, and have an established comfortability with each. I also have some experience smoking DMT on mushrooms. If done, it would be done alone and with the intent of expanding/exploring consciousness, and developing my inner self.

The doses would be kept generally modest: 1.5 tab quality blotter + 1.5g homegrown golden teachers + 50mg homemade 1:1 10x caapi Changa smoked during or after the peak.
Not sure if I should just keep the experiences separate, or if this would be a divine collective. Any words of advice/caution/wisdom?

Thanks!

 

[3rdI]

hello CatchThirtyThr33

if I were to combine the 3 I would eat the acid and the shrooms and a dose of pharma, I would try to keep the levels as equal as possible so that all 3 flavours created and equal mix of madness.

and then when all that played out I would hit some infused leaf/changa.

and then I would have a little sleep.

 

[The Unknowing]

Psilocybin is DMT made oral IMO (as they are very similar structurally), so really you just mixing DMT with LSD. I would be more curious as to Mescaline+LSD+DMT+Salvia...but this would probably be madness.

I'm a little high to even consider it,
Peace

 

[adam]

I would say smoke some changa with the intention of going further, once under the influence of the changa with everything ready to go then you decide what and how much you want to ingest.

 

[vineseeker]

I think your doing something wrong if you come to ask such as question.
Every single of the substances (taken ALONE) you mentioned can induce life changing experiences if you do it right. Of course there are many things to consider.
I would advice to explore each substance of its own without mixing them up etc.

Just take some pure 300mic lsd , I dont think that you want to mix in more substances after that 8)

 

[universecannon]

Vineseeker, have you ever tried lsdmt, or dmt while on mushrooms? They are incredible combinations beyond words. lsd or mushrooms can get you there on their own way, but they also can be the perfect synergistic launch platforms for deep dmt exploration.


I tried doing dmt while on a fairly low dose mix of lsd and mushrooms once. I'm not that big a fan of mixing lsd and mushrooms though...but maybe it was just the set/setting that unfolded it as it did, since some love the combination.

 

[adam]

Vineseeker I think these substances beg to be mixed at least ime. My favorite combo is harmalas mushrooms and dmt I like this much better then any of them on their own.

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

I feel like with this kind of crazy dose, you would just white out and loose yourself completely.

You don't need to trip ballz to have important experiences: the trip I got the most out of was 1.5g of mushrooms on a nice day.

 

[CatchThirtyThr33]

I ended up taking 2.5 tabs of LSD and smoking changa during the peak. It was absolutely amazing.
The first breakthrough I visited the insane alien carnival in hyper-realistic detail, it was one of the most positive experiences I've had so far. The second time (a couple hours later) started off very dark and unsettling, but I had my first glossolalia experience which left me with a huge smile on my face by the end of it. I elaborate a bit more about the second experience here: "Alien possession"/Glossolalia - DMT Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Still curious about the combination of the three however. Now that I have experience smoking changa on mushrooms, and now on LSD, I feel very curious. I've been doing psychedelics regularly for 6 years now and have yet to combine LSD with psilocybin, let alone with DMT.

 

[adam]

sounds like a fun ride hahah.

I have never done lsdmtpsilo combo not sure I ever will. It sort of seems like over kill. But, then again I don't know I may just have to indulge:twisted:

 

[CatchThirtyThr33]

sounds like a fun ride hahah.

I have never done lsdmtpsilo combo not sure I ever will. It sort of seems like over kill. But, then again I don't know I may just have to indulge:twisted:

That's why I figured I'd ask; there definitely is a sense of over-indulgence surrounding the whole idea, though I feel almost compelled to try it at least once.

 

[acacian]

I don't see anything wrong with combining them as I think different teachers often compliment each other.. i found the LSD+DMT+psilocybin beautiful beyond words. I tried LSD and psilocybin out in the bush on a beautiful sunny day and it was one of the most truly mystical experiences I have ever had...I feel it keeps the psilocybin style visuals but is made much more "plastic" from the LSD.. then smoking dmt after the peak took it to the next level

 

[CatchThirtyThr33]

I don't see anything wrong with combining them as I think different teachers often compliment each other.. i found the LSD+DMT+psilocybin beautiful beyond words. I tried LSD and psilocybin out in the bush on a beautiful sunny day and it was one of the most truly mystical experiences I have ever had...I feel it keeps the psilocybin style visuals but is made much more "plastic" from the LSD.. then smoking dmt after the peak took it to the next level

Glad to hear from someone with experience with this combo. I keep reading mixed reports about the mixing of psilocybin and LSD. Some say they have beautiful synergy (such as you have), and others say it's a confusing cacophony of colour. I'm glad to hear that you had a rewarding experience! Definitely makes me more inclined to give it a chance
Thanks acacian

 

[vineseeker]

Of course it can be mixed and it may enhance trips but still my lessons show me that less is often more. Also I have different ways of making the experience stronger without taking more substance. But I dont say that mixing could not benefit some people, but for me its nothing in the moment.

 

[CatchThirtyThr33]

Of course it can be mixed and it may enhance trips but still my lessons show me that less is often more. Also I have different ways of making the experience stronger without taking more substance. But I dont say that mixing could not benefit some people, but for me its nothing in the moment.

I know what you mean, many factors come into play. One person on 5g of mushrooms at a loud, busy party is less inclined to have a meaningful experience than the person who took 3.5g and spent the trip meditating alone in silence (for example).

I've learned many lessons and have been shown new facets of my personal existence through the use of each of these entheogens separately. I've got a good grip on each individually and am familiar with how they each differently impact my consciousness. I'm looking to see if there's anything unique to be taken from the combined experiences now that I know (generally) what each has to offer. I may or may not, but in the end there may only be one concrete way to find out.

Vineseeker, what are your methods of making your experiences stronger? Just curious

 

[vineseeker]

setting is important for the experience, thats the easy way of enhancing.
With the dmt (ayahuasca) and also shrooms I have certain connections to the spirits and plants gathered on extensive diets in the jungle which make the experiences a bit different
This opened up a whole new world to me but it does not come easy

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

Disclaimer: Do not take my experience as any kind of evidence for what you should do.

Not only have I done the 3 together a good number of times over the last 25 years... my very first time smoking DMT was when I was on approx. 4g of Cubensis and 500µ of clean, fresh LSD windowpane.

:shock:

I would probably not have chosen to do this, but I had been looking for DMT for nearly 10 years... and DMT was nowhere near as easy to come by in the 80's. I was already nearly as high as I had been in my decade or so of psychedelic use when the opportunity arose.

I won't give the trip report here, but many Nexians have already read it, and it will be in the Nexian Magazine when/if it ever winds up coming out.

What I will say is that in a psychonaut career of 35 years and perhaps a couple thousand excursions... that trip will forever be etched in my soul. There are trips that most people would drool about and cherish for life that I have completely forgotten. Sometimes I remember things in Hyperspace that I truly wonder how it is possible to forget. But that first DMT trip is clear as day to me in every ineffable eternity of it.

As if the 3 way combo wasn't pushing the envelope to begin with, I consumed a pretty ungodly amount of DMT all in one hit. (well the opposite of ungodly actually)

So...

To answer your question...

The three synergize extremely well. But this is not a combo for the faint of heart. I was never the same afterwards. And I don't say this in the way that most people do when they had an insightful afternoon on boomers. I was literally not the same and never could return to my former self.

I am better for it IMHO... but it was about a month or more after the trip that I finally stopped feeling like my life... that all human life... was so ridiculously insignificant and small that it was almost a punishment to be trapped in it. After that trip, the brightest colors seemed dim and washed out... and the greatest minds humanity has ever produced seemed like naive little children with severe mental problems.

I love this world now. And it is truly a gas to be alive... a blessing of the highest order, but at that time my world was shattered... and even more mind-boggling was that I had no desire whatsoever to rebuild it.

All of that said... I think this kind of experience is what many people are really looking for when they delve into Hyperspace. I would say 99% of people who even enjoy tripping once in a while should probably not follow in my footsteps. But that 1% who should... really should.

 

[Fractalyzed]

I won't give the trip report here, but many Nexians have already read it, and it will be in the Nexian Magazine when/if it ever winds up coming out.

No, wait! Where's the report?! Link?? :want: :want:

 

[CatchThirtyThr33]

Hyperspace Fool - Eloquently written, thank you for replying. If you have a link handy, I'd love to read your report as well.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

Not knowing the current policy for material to be published in the mag, I have refrained from putting the trip report up in a thread. Probably, this is no big deal and it will wind up posted here eventually...

But I am not a tease, so I have PM'd both of you with the report. For whatever reason, the formatting gets lost with cut & paste in PMs, and I can't be bothered to go back and add in the original italics and whatnot... it doesn't need them anyway. Trust me.

Heheheh.
8) HF