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Making a Changa blend for the first time

Madhattress said:
I actually did find a very well written and informative thread which I was busy reading through now written by @olympus mon in 2013..... The Art of Changa, a guide to making the perfect blends.

I have some Caapi vine I'm going to extract the freebase alks out first(anything I can extract I will 🤣) and then I'm just currently deciding on which herbs/plants I want to use as my leaf base 🙂

Having the most fun researching something new and to do some new extractions to add to my collection of knowledge🥳
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You could always go the route of reversible MAOi's that Doctors can prescribe. Makes for a very well delivered and measured Dose. And can be taken 30min prior to your Changa, making for a better overall experience. Or so I've been told..
 
Hey guys!

So going to do some blends tomorrow and I want to start doing some IPA infusions. Was just wondering amounts of herbs or flower to into let say 100ml of ipa. I've seen on a thread about quarter of the jar that's infused so is that a good ratio to sort of stick by?

Herbs/flowers I'm thinking to infuse mainly for flavor:

Lavender
Chamomile
Rose petals?

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Okay, I just didn't want to overflavor my IPA infusion before mixing it with the DMT and the herb blend after a couple of weeks.
 
EmeraldAtomiser said:
I wouldn't mix too many flavourings if I were you, and I would infuse the IPA with individual plants, and then mix them as desired afterwards.
I've not infused rose, but that sounds lovely.
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Awesome, I will definitely take that advice. Going to do individual infusions today and let them sit for a couple of weeks. Yeah I thought the dried rose could be quite nice to infuse as it smells wonderful 🤩
 

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Hello everyone, it's good to read you. After a few years without extracting, I have a batch of spice and I want to make a classic Changa (1:1) recipe that I found here on the forum:

30% Caapi vine
20% Mullein
20% Passion fruit
20% Peppermint
5% Calendula
5% Lotus flower

After that, I'm going to venture into studying some plants. From what I understand, DMT creates a phenomenological basis in which we can interact directly with the spirit of the plants that are mixed there. As an Aromatherapy nerd, this interests me a lot because the ancients already said that essential oils are the soul of plants.

I have two questions: I have many infusions that have been stored for months and months with various resins (frankincense, myrrh, styrax, benzoin, in short, a whole shelf of aromatic extractions) in grain alcohol. Has anyone had experience making Changa with this kind of extraction? I ask because the alcohol from these extractions is usually quite sticky, and I wonder if it would be good to smoke.

Another question is about using Brugmansia sp. flowers in Changa. I have a plant in my backyard that provides flowers all year round. How could I prepare these fresh flowers to use in Changa?

Best regards
 
quantumtantra said:
Hello everyone, it's good to read you. After a few years without extracting, I have a batch of spice and I want to make a classic Changa (1:1) recipe that I found here on the forum:

30% Caapi vine
20% Mullein
20% Passion fruit
20% Peppermint
5% Calendula
5% Lotus flower

After that, I'm going to venture into studying some plants. From what I understand, DMT creates a phenomenological basis in which we can interact directly with the spirit of the plants that are mixed there. As an Aromatherapy nerd, this interests me a lot because the ancients already said that essential oils are the soul of plants.

I have two questions: I have many infusions that have been stored for months and months with various resins (frankincense, myrrh, styrax, benzoin, in short, a whole shelf of aromatic extractions) in grain alcohol. Has anyone had experience making Changa with this kind of extraction? I ask because the alcohol from these extractions is usually quite sticky, and I wonder if it would be good to smoke.

Another question is about using Brugmansia sp. flowers in Changa. I have a plant in my backyard that provides flowers all year round. How could I prepare these fresh flowers to use in Changa?

Best regards
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That all sounds most excellent. I've never thought of infusing with resins. It's opened up a whole new avenue of exploration for me. Thanks!
I'd have thought the viscosity would not be such an issue, once they'd been diluted with IPA, maybe warmed, before the DMT is added? So long as you're diluting enough, for a large enough batch, I'd have thought the end product wouldn't get too sticky.
As for quantities of solvent, going back to my notes from when I first started extractions, with only the Nexus and Nexians for information, I have 40mL of IPA per gram of spice, written down.
I love how into every aspect of the changa production you're getting. I love a bit of attention to detail, me. I've got some IPA that's sat for 2 months with both caapi leaf and vine. I use that infusion for 70% and use another herb for the second, say peppermint. This can be accompanied with a drop or three of the same herb's essential oil on the lid of the container the changa is curing in, or something else, orange, say, or lavender.
I'd always use some damiana infused IPA, as well as having it in the blend
As for the Brugmansia, that species, and it's energy, is always one to to be approached with respect, but I'd have thought that a flower or two, cut up very fine and dried before being well distributed throughout the blend, would be safe as well as interesting, maybe.
Just to ensure you understand, this is in no way intended to be medical advice 😆

My latest blend:
caapi leaf 0.5g
gotu kola 0.3g
Calea Zacatechichi 0.2g
IPA: 30ml caapi leaf infused 20ml Damiana infused 20ml Pau D'arco
1.11g DMT 0.13g Harmalas extracted from red vine

I have not tried this yet. It's been curing for a good few weeks now. It's potent. I can feel it. I'm a bit scared, if I'm honest.
Hmmmm. Maybe, today feels like the day...
 
EmeraldAtomiser said:
Tudo isso parece excelente. Nunca pensei em infundir com resinas. Isso abriu um novo caminho de exploração para mim. Obrigado!
Eu pensei que a viscosidade não seria um problema tão grande, uma vez que eles foram diluídos com IPA, talvez aquecidos, antes do DMT ser adicionado? Contanto que você esteja diluindo o suficiente, para um lote grande o suficiente, eu pensei que o produto final não ficaria muito pegajoso.
Quanto às quantidades de solvente, voltando às minhas anotações de quando comecei as extrações, com apenas o Nexus e o Nexians como informação, tenho 40 mL de IPA por grama de especiaria, anotados.
Adoro como você está entrando em cada aspecto da produção de changa. Eu adoro um pouco de atenção aos detalhes, eu. Tenho uma IPA que ficou parada por 2 meses com folhas de caapi e videira. Uso essa infusão para 70% e uso outra erva para a segunda, digamos hortelã-pimenta. Isso pode ser acompanhado de uma gota ou três do mesmo óleo essencial da erva na tampa do recipiente em que a changa está curando, ou outra coisa, laranja, digamos, ou lavanda.
Eu sempre usaria um pouco de IPA com infusão de damiana, além de tê-la na mistura
Quanto à Brugmansia, essa espécie e sua energia são sempre algo a ser abordado com respeito, mas eu teria pensado que uma ou duas flores, cortadas bem finas e secas antes de serem bem distribuídas pela mistura, seriam seguras e interessantes, talvez.
Só para garantir que você entenda, isso não tem a intenção de ser um conselho médico.😆

Minha última mistura:
folha de caapi 0,5g
centelha asiática 0,3g
Calea Zacatechichi 0,2g
IPA: 30ml de infusão de folha de caapi 20ml de infusão de Damiana 20ml de Pau D'arco
1,11g DMT 0,13g Harmalas extraído de videira vermelha

Ainda não tentei isso. Já faz algumas semanas que está curando. É potente. Posso sentir. Estou um pouco assustado, para ser honesto.
Hmmmm. Talvez, hoje pareça o dia...
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Very good, you seem to like aromatic blends :) I would love to know more about experiences with essential oils in Changa, and how this impacts the experience

I know I need to experiment on my own, but it is always good to learn from more experienced people

I will start with 25% resin alcohol for 75% IPA (I will infuse it with damiana, which is coming soon, thanks for the suggestion)

What is the logic behind leaving IPA with Caapi for 2 months? Are we going to use the IPA or the herb in the Changa?

This is another point that I still haven't been able to understand: how to make a 10x Caapi extract to put in the Changa (if you can direct me to a link for this, I have already looked here on the forum but I haven't found a tek)

About Brugmansia, thanks for the tip, I will try some method of drying the flowers
 
Maybe it doesn't make much sense for Changa, but for perfumery it is important to have individual plant extractions in different concentrations to capture the nuances of each scent, that's why I already have these infusions. By the way, I'm reading the Changa musings thread, thanks!
 
Voidmatrix said:
Why infuse individual plants? Curious.

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This was for having pre-flavoured IPA or ethanol for adding in small amounts to the infusing herbs, where the aromatic herbs may only be wanted in smaller amounts than would be pracicable for a given amount of changa blend, or may have undesirable smoking characteristics when included as the whole herb.
quantumtantra said:
I have two questions: I have many infusions that have been stored for months and months with various resins (frankincense, myrrh, styrax, benzoin, in short, a whole shelf of aromatic extractions) in grain alcohol. Has anyone had experience making Changa with this kind of extraction? I ask because the alcohol from these extractions is usually quite sticky, and I wonder if it would be good to smoke.
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Frankincense infusion sounds particularly interesting... I'd advise thinning them down considerably before including in changa - they're not usually intended for direct inhalation.
 
Great! In this case, I was thinking about flavoring the IPA before using it in the changa herbs. I'm going to use an aromatic resin extraction that I've had since October 2022. It has several different resins. I thought about starting with 5% to 95% IPA. Maybe I'll think about some perfumery approach to making changa, like thinking about the base, heart and top notes.

Greetings
 
@Madhattress I have used rose petals among other things as filler material for changa joints whenever friends wanted to blast off together, it works great!

@quantumtantra I like the Brugmansia idea! I think some people use datura seeds with ayahuasca so it should mix well with changa. I have used Brugmansia flowers in making ointments before but I never tried smoking it, so you'll have to try it first on its own. There is a lot of brugmansias where I am now so I might try that myself too. For drying I would pick freshly bloomed flowers and hang them whole to dry in a place inside with good air circulation.

Anyway, I personally don't focus so much on the flavor but rather on the smoothness of the changa blend. I don't recall noticing much difference in flavor since DMT is usually the dominant component and it does have a strong and persistent taste especially when smoked rather than vaped. But yeah I haven't experienced many different blends so I don't really know how much difference it makes. I like to think of the different blends as having different spirit/imprint on the experience.
 
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I also have a "standard" blend made with just caapi and chaliponga.

Caapi and chaliponga have very noticeable and robust and earthy flavors. I like them for that alone, aside from their symbolism and content.

There are some blends with other ratios, but since I'm playing around with those they are primarily only mullein.

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Voidmatrix said:
Post in thread 'Changa Musings' Changa Musings

Post in thread 'Changa Musings' Changa Musings

Post in thread 'Changa Musings' Changa Musings

Here's a few.

My favorite is mullein, blue lotus, and passion flower with 300mg harmalas and 1g deems.

❤️

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We need an official changologist badge for those who put in this much effort and dedication 😄
 
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